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beachandbush
beachandbush

NSW

416 posts

17 Jan 2019 2:53pm





Anyone tried or own one of these
AndyrooMac
AndyrooMac

TAS

1925 posts

17 Jan 2019 4:28pm
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beachandbush said..





Anyone tried or own one of these


What model is that?

I know Steve's go to is a Puddle Jumper and he LOVES it, just ordered a shorter version... I hear nothing but great reports back from my SB mates who ride any of Matt's boards...

That said... Too short for a mid though
Ricardo1709
Ricardo1709

NSW

1302 posts

17 Jan 2019 5:01pm
Looks like the Round nose fish they are meant to be really good boards from what I hear.Ive got a V3 Rocket and its a great board
thedrip
thedrip

WA

2355 posts

17 Jan 2019 11:52pm
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AndyrooMac said..

beachandbush said..





Anyone tried or own one of these



What model is that?

I know Steve's go to is a Puddle Jumper and he LOVES it, just ordered a shorter version... I hear nothing but great reports back from my SB mates who ride any of Matt's boards...

That said... Too short for a mid though


I had a Puddle Jumper and it was one of the worst boards I have owned and surfed. Very very limited in what it did. No drive and I had to nurse the turns as it had no hold(loose and no hold are not the same thing). Owned it for two weeks, surfed it eight times and made $50 when I sold it as I had bought it second hand. I have surfed lots of grovel boards and this one sucked for mine. Lucky they are popular and people love them - it only took two days to sell (remembering I have sold only three or four boards over the years).

Then I got a Yahoo Kelvinator - yewww!
AndyrooMac
AndyrooMac

TAS

1925 posts

18 Jan 2019 7:25am
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thedrip said..

AndyrooMac said..


beachandbush said..





Anyone tried or own one of these




What model is that?

I know Steve's go to is a Puddle Jumper and he LOVES it, just ordered a shorter version... I hear nothing but great reports back from my SB mates who ride any of Matt's boards...

That said... Too short for a mid though



I had a Puddle Jumper and it was one of the worst boards I have owned and surfed. Very very limited in what it did. No drive and I had to nurse the turns as it had no hold(loose and no hold are not the same thing). Owned it for two weeks, surfed it eight times and made $50 when I sold it as I had bought it second hand. I have surfed lots of grovel boards and this one sucked for mine. Lucky they are popular and people love them - it only took two days to sell (remembering I have sold only three or four boards over the years).

Then I got a Yahoo Kelvinator - yewww!


Interesting, Steve's goes really well from watching him. Not my bag but Really helped him transition even shorter and knifier onto one of those switchblades... Which I could NEVER surf...

The Kelvinator is a totally different thing though, very similar to my old SubX which are great boards, super easy to surf and catch waves and have fun.
Lenn
Lenn

NSW

174 posts

18 Jan 2019 10:24am
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thedrip said..

AndyrooMac said..


beachandbush said..





Anyone tried or own one of these




What model is that?

I know Steve's go to is a Puddle Jumper and he LOVES it, just ordered a shorter version... I hear nothing but great reports back from my SB mates who ride any of Matt's boards...

That said... Too short for a mid though



I had a Puddle Jumper and it was one of the worst boards I have owned and surfed. Very very limited in what it did. No drive and I had to nurse the turns as it had no hold(loose and no hold are not the same thing). Owned it for two weeks, surfed it eight times and made $50 when I sold it as I had bought it second hand. I have surfed lots of grovel boards and this one sucked for mine. Lucky they are popular and people love them - it only took two days to sell (remembering I have sold only three or four boards over the years).

Then I got a Yahoo Kelvinator - yewww!


I ave a 6'2" Puddle Jumper, set as Quad with large fins and i find it is not too bad, sure it turns (feels like it after my Bonzer and Jackson Long) but nothing like described above
SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

18 Jan 2019 8:08am
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beachandbush said..





Anyone tried or own one of these

They look good.
Few clips floating around of Dane, Kolohe, and Mason Ho ripping on them. Try mayhem insta feed.
saltyheaven
saltyheaven

TAS

507 posts

19 Jan 2019 11:03am
Dane Reynolds (should I even know who that is!?) on a Thick Lizzy. Mismatch made in heaven...


AndyrooMac
AndyrooMac

TAS

1925 posts

19 Jan 2019 1:38pm
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saltyheaven said..
Dane Reynolds (should I even know who that is!?) on a Thick Lizzy. Mismatch made in heaven...




Such an unreal surfer, mind blowing how easy he noserides a 7'6"...
AndyrooMac
AndyrooMac

TAS

1925 posts

22 Jan 2019 9:52am
Well that looks interesting been keen to give hey a run...

www.instagram.com/p/Bs6Lz5XHphN/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=12pul762kumy1





Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

25 Jan 2019 5:35pm
I don't know about you but this rear fin placement just looks wrong what do you think?


Toobz
Toobz

183 posts

25 Jan 2019 6:30pm
One too many fins on that bad boy
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

25 Jan 2019 9:05pm
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Toobz said..
One too many fins on that bad boy


Yeah same
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

26 Jan 2019 4:35am
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Macaha said..
I don't know about you but this rear fin placement just looks wrong what do you think?



The side fins aren't big enough to be a twin.
The back fin is up or the setup is clustered. Interesting
Have a go on it.
SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

26 Jan 2019 10:35am
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laceys lane said..

Macaha said..
I don't know about you but this rear fin placement just looks wrong what do you think?



The side fins aren't big enough to be a twin.
The back fin is up or the setup is clustered. Interesting
Have a go on it.


Tight cluster maybe to get it to turn in a shorter arc with that wide tail and straight rails line?
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

26 Jan 2019 1:38pm
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SP said..

laceys lane said..


Macaha said..
I don't know about you but this rear fin placement just looks wrong what do you think?




The side fins aren't big enough to be a twin.
The back fin is up or the setup is clustered. Interesting
Have a go on it.



Tight cluster maybe to get it to turn in a shorter arc with that wide tail and straight rails line?


I would try it
SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

27 Jan 2019 9:06am
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laceys lane said..

SP said..


laceys lane said..



Macaha said..
I don't know about you but this rear fin placement just looks wrong what do you think?





The side fins aren't big enough to be a twin.
The back fin is up or the setup is clustered. Interesting
Have a go on it.




Tight cluster maybe to get it to turn in a shorter arc with that wide tail and straight rails line?



I would try it


Same.
saltyheaven
saltyheaven

TAS

507 posts

27 Jan 2019 9:33pm
Bottom contours on a Salty Special Mid Length....

Blue is flat, going through green to yellow is concave, going through pink to red is convex.






chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

28 Jan 2019 3:58am
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saltyheaven said..
Bottom contours on a Salty Special Mid Length....

Blue is flat, going through green to yellow is concave, going through pink to red is convex.







That is awesome how you have done that
chrispy
chrispy

WA

9675 posts

28 Jan 2019 3:59am
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SP said..

laceys lane said..


SP said..



laceys lane said..




Macaha said..
I don't know about you but this rear fin placement just looks wrong what do you think?






The side fins aren't big enough to be a twin.
The back fin is up or the setup is clustered. Interesting
Have a go on it.





Tight cluster maybe to get it to turn in a shorter arc with that wide tail and straight rails line?




I would try it



Same.


Got to give everything a crack
Macaha
Macaha

QLD

21981 posts

28 Jan 2019 6:18am
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chrispy said..

SP said..


laceys lane said..



SP said..




laceys lane said..





Macaha said..
I don't know about you but this rear fin placement just looks wrong what do you think?







The side fins aren't big enough to be a twin.
The back fin is up or the setup is clustered. Interesting
Have a go on it.






Tight cluster maybe to get it to turn in a shorter arc with that wide tail and straight rails line?





I would try it




Same.



Got to give everything a crack


Glide board next Lacey, Vander's will be proud of you, who's Vander's anyway
AndyrooMac
AndyrooMac

TAS

1925 posts

28 Jan 2019 9:17am
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saltyheaven said..
Bottom contours on a Salty Special Mid Length....

Blue is flat, going through green to yellow is concave, going through pink to red is convex.







Looks super interesting...
Hull entry to tri-plane hull?
what did you decide on the rails? TL knifey stuff or more volume?

let me know when your getting started and i'll try and sneak down, kids go back to school week after next so i'll have a bit more time then.
saltyheaven
saltyheaven

TAS

507 posts

28 Jan 2019 11:05am
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AndyrooMac said..

Looks super interesting...
Hull entry to tri-plane hull?
what did you decide on the rails? TL knifey stuff or more volume?

let me know when your getting started and i'll try and sneak down, kids go back to school week after next so i'll have a bit more time then.


Yeah, Tri plane the whole way, soft up front harder and flatter at the tail. Between the triplane it's convex entry to Vee with double concave and flat out the back. It's been pretty much this with slight variations for me for quite a while now.
I'm not terribly sure how knifey my rails are, I know that when I feel up a board in a shop rack the rails usually feel full and bulbous, but I've never done any comparative measurements or anything like that.

Won't be getting started anytime soon, got to get some walls built and insulated before the cold comes. Sooo much to do. It's kind of a blessing in disguise really, I normally scratch out an outline, grab a tested rocker and hack at it without too much thought. This time I'm really considering all options and ideas, refining subtleties of curve, going back and forth. Thinking about the shape changes while up and riding my current boards, watching the water release off the tail as I trim along a wave, stuff like that. Feels good to be doing.
laceys lane
laceys lane

QLD

19804 posts

28 Jan 2019 10:30am
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thedrip said..

AndyrooMac said..


beachandbush said..





Anyone tried or own one of these




What model is that?

I know Steve's go to is a Puddle Jumper and he LOVES it, just ordered a shorter version... I hear nothing but great reports back from my SB mates who ride any of Matt's boards...

That said... Too short for a mid though



I had a Puddle Jumper and it was one of the worst boards I have owned and surfed. Very very limited in what it did. No drive and I had to nurse the turns as it had no hold(loose and no hold are not the same thing). Owned it for two weeks, surfed it eight times and made $50 when I sold it as I had bought it second hand. I have surfed lots of grovel boards and this one sucked for mine. Lucky they are popular and people love them - it only took two days to sell (remembering I have sold only three or four boards over the years).

Then I got a Yahoo Kelvinator - yewww!


I had one too. As i generally like my boards to be 6 to 6.2 i found the tail was way to wide and big for me to sink or get in the water.
So it was silly over vol. In reality i should be on 5.4 pj or something for the right vol.

Its a trend that hard to get around if you still like some length in your boards.

Im getting sdr to make me a 6.2 nomad 32.5 litre vol without going to narrow.
It will be interesting
AndyrooMac
AndyrooMac

TAS

1925 posts

28 Jan 2019 12:14pm
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laceys lane said..

thedrip said..


AndyrooMac said..



beachandbush said..





Anyone tried or own one of these





What model is that?

I know Steve's go to is a Puddle Jumper and he LOVES it, just ordered a shorter version... I hear nothing but great reports back from my SB mates who ride any of Matt's boards...

That said... Too short for a mid though




I had a Puddle Jumper and it was one of the worst boards I have owned and surfed. Very very limited in what it did. No drive and I had to nurse the turns as it had no hold(loose and no hold are not the same thing). Owned it for two weeks, surfed it eight times and made $50 when I sold it as I had bought it second hand. I have surfed lots of grovel boards and this one sucked for mine. Lucky they are popular and people love them - it only took two days to sell (remembering I have sold only three or four boards over the years).

Then I got a Yahoo Kelvinator - yewww!



I had one too. As i generally like my boards to be 6 to 6.2 i found the tail was way to wide and big for me to sink or get in the water.
So it was silly over vol. In reality i should be on 5.4 pj or something for the right vol.

Its a trend that hard to get around if you still like some length in your boards.

Im getting sdr to make me a 6.2 nomad 32.5 litre vol without going to narrow.
It will be interesting


One of my mates has a SDR Nomad, he's a bloody good surfer and LOVES that board. I just finished doing some repairs on it and its really got some interesting stuff going on.

His is 6'4" and we did a swap the other day, i was able to go from my 7'7" Lizzy and surf it comfortably... Thing paddles really well for the size and gets in really early... Not my thing but thats because its designed as a step up for SB guys, you need to surf it and drive it like an SB... But if i was still an SB guy thats where i'd go... I rate it over the PJ for sure
AndyrooMac
AndyrooMac

TAS

1925 posts

28 Jan 2019 12:17pm
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saltyheaven said..

AndyrooMac said..

Looks super interesting...
Hull entry to tri-plane hull?
what did you decide on the rails? TL knifey stuff or more volume?

let me know when your getting started and i'll try and sneak down, kids go back to school week after next so i'll have a bit more time then.



Yeah, Tri plane the whole way, soft up front harder and flatter at the tail. Between the triplane it's convex entry to Vee with double concave and flat out the back. It's been pretty much this with slight variations for me for quite a while now.
I'm not terribly sure how knifey my rails are, I know that when I feel up a board in a shop rack the rails usually feel full and bulbous, but I've never done any comparative measurements or anything like that.

Won't be getting started anytime soon, got to get some walls built and insulated before the cold comes. Sooo much to do. It's kind of a blessing in disguise really, I normally scratch out an outline, grab a tested rocker and hack at it without too much thought. This time I'm really considering all options and ideas, refining subtleties of curve, going back and forth. Thinking about the shape changes while up and riding my current boards, watching the water release off the tail as I trim along a wave, stuff like that. Feels good to be doing.


Siiiick... your other board looked pretty damn good so whatever your doing is working well...

and yeah, Tassie is fkn cold over the winter so make sure you get gloves/booties and super warm wettie as it also when the best waves are about... I'd do that before getting the house sorted
saltyheaven
saltyheaven

TAS

507 posts

28 Jan 2019 1:16pm
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AndyrooMac said..


and yeah, Tassie is fkn cold over the winter so make sure you get gloves/booties and super warm wettie as it also when the best waves are about... I'd do that before getting the house sorted


Haha, I've overcompensated on the rubber well in advance! I'm set for the arctic and can't wait.
AndyrooMac
AndyrooMac

TAS

1925 posts

28 Jan 2019 1:20pm
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saltyheaven said..





AndyrooMac said..




and yeah, Tassie is fkn cold over the winter so make sure you get gloves/booties and super warm wettie as it also when the best waves are about... I'd do that before getting the house sorted




Haha, I've overcompensated on the rubber well in advance! I'm set for the arctic and can't wait.



The east coast points are just unreal... last couple of winters have bombed so we are well due... Last year Autumn was really fun though, we had a run where they were breaking 1-2 times a week for about a month, one week was 5 days... the locals actually got surfed out... I... did... not...

FYI, you cannot overcompensate... it gets COLD
saltyheaven
saltyheaven

TAS

507 posts

28 Jan 2019 1:37pm
Good! Bring it on.
saltyheaven
saltyheaven

TAS

507 posts

28 Jan 2019 5:29pm
A different way of expressing the same thing... this is horizontal slices equidistant from a flat plane beneath the board.

For a couple of years I've been using the free version of a board design program, just as a way of sketching out ideas and recording and comparing rockers and such, it's been a boon. I just use it for design and take the plan shape and the rocker templates from it to the blank, resolving everything on the stands in the good old way.
I've just got a one month licence on the full program to check it out and have been exploring all the features that I've previously had no access to. Hence the pretty visualisations!

Pretty good program I reckon. Shape 3d if anyone is interested. No affiliation.





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