SP said..




Well if trump keeps pulling the US out of the UN, WHO etc only one country with a big enough economy to step in..

chrispy said..
Did find a fun time burner with this

Cobra said..




But is it up to USA/ trump and US dollars to financially prop the UN, (that doesn't do its job) when others pay cents.

SP said..




I dont think it is a financial decision.

I see an idealogical question of who drives the direction of these organistaion and hence world politics and policies. China or the West? Is the US leaves that voice of the west will be slowly eroded. Europe doesn't have the numbers or clout to drive it.

Cobra said..








Cobra said..
so considering a month ago we were looking at 3.6% mortality to a prediction of around 5.5 to 5.9%
i think they have a fair idea of where we are at.







i don't count in 000.00.00 because i TRY counting using my own brain.
So go get your calculator and if you think the calculations of the predictions above
are so far different than bellow, you post it champion.

chrispy said..
Did find a fun time burner with this

Cobra said..




Still got that Scotty Cameron?

Cuttlefish said..
Deflection. Still dead wrong with your scare mongering motivated by your self preservation instinct not from any empathy for your fellow human beings. Keep on not surfing!

Cobra said..






Could talk about this for hours. Yes great points. But I can hear the quivering voices saying.... the US bully stamp and flex. No win in my books.

chrispy said..




People who are doing the right thing should be applauded for those figures because if it wasn't for those people, cobras statistics would be correct in Australia...

If we relied on all the ither ****wits to do the right thing we would be like italy...it does also help that we are an island...but hey you are smart and know all this

Thank goodness they closed down the markets and stopped a lot of dodgies slinging cheap imported asian goods at them ..good times

do you want us all to be ****ed ?

Cobra said..






world mate, forget aussie stats gee we are nearly two months behind the northern hemisphere.
umm 936,438 covid cases with 47,251 deaths. you do the math. it Started off lower think i remember was 1.8%
its early days.
other thing you have to remember Cuttle what were our numbers infected two weeks ago to now. + that's why every case now will have a result in three weeks. who has that crystal ball, very sad.

Nozza said..
What I don't understand, or one of the many things I don't understand, is with the world economy tanking they say the governments are going to be in debt.
Australia they are talking a generation to pay it off.
If all the world economy is going negative, and all the governments are going in to debt, who are everyone borrowing from?
I've got about $6,000 in the bank, but that's not going to go far when spread across the world.
Are we borrowing from aliens?, dolphins?, the bloke up the road with the Porsche Boxter and the Tesla (I bet he hasn't got $6 grand)
I actually understand very little when I think about it.
Maybe taking my life advice from a surfing forum isn't a good thing.

chrispy said..




I love this post and have asked the asked the same questions to other humans ...only to receive blank stares as if i was the alien lending money

Advice is always better on Facebook nozza

Ricardo1709 said..
We will all be paying the massive debt with extra taxes, slugs to super and increased conditions and taxes to lump sum withdrawals, increase in GST will be first cab off the rank and America will go to war with China.Start getting off the grid and being more self sufficient, grow your own food,if you don't have a big yard containers and sprouts, get chooks,solar power, slowly stock up to negate all the inevitable price hikes across the board.

Nozza said..
What I don't understand, or one of the many things I don't understand, is with the world economy tanking they say the governments are going to be in debt.
Australia they are talking a generation to pay it off.
If all the world economy is going negative, and all the governments are going in to debt, who are everyone borrowing from?
I've got about $6,000 in the bank, but that's not going to go far when spread across the world.
Are we borrowing from aliens?, dolphins?, the bloke up the road with the Porsche Boxter and the Tesla (I bet he hasn't got $6 grand)
I actually understand very little when I think about it.
Maybe taking my life advice from a surfing forum isn't a good thing.

Macaha said..
Good post Nozza, why can't the rulers of each country meet shake hands and call all debt off due to the virus, suspend trade like the share market or ok here's another print money , properly the dumbest thing I've ever posted

Macaha said..
Good post Nozza, why can't the rulers of each country meet shake hands and call all debt off due to the virus, suspend trade like the share market or ok here's another print money , properly the dumbest thing I've ever posted

SP said..

Interesting. Great post.

I think it will be much worse and slower to recover than 2008. Resources aren't booming, local economy is not as strong. Dollar is weak to name a few reasons.

The app is an interesting one. On one hand it will alert you quickly if you have been in contact with someone who is infected but obviously the tracking of people is a bit Orwellian. But I guess they can do it now anyway through phone companies and mobile location services anyway so are we really losing a freedom?

It's a ****ed up situation and one that is not easily solved.

Love the journalist quote at the end. The best government is one that governs less. I. E people do the right thing and society functions without over the top laws and Interference from government in their day to day lives. Shame there are a lot of self driven people who don't put society first and gov needs to step in. I think they wanted to lock it up to give themselves time to assess. Gotta be a very stressful situation for the pollies and the experts.
A wrong call probably means lives lost. Italy etc probably put the fear of a worse case scenario in the front of their mind.

Will be Interesting to see how it rolls along in the next period.
Hopefully the flattening if the curve means people can return to some normality in there day to day lives. Locking people up for long times with draconian measures can only lead to social issues which are a lot harder to solve them economic ones.

MickPC said..




That would be the IMF m8..."internaional monetary fund". Basically what they do is provide financial support to failing economies to pay their debts. When the countries continue to experience financial difficulty the IMF says ok righto, well you have those assets, we'll take those. Some say it ties into C19, but there's no way conspiracy theories could be true is there