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10' 2" of pure speed catch me if you can

Ripper mate can't wait to see it in action.

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asea said..





10' 2" of pure speed catch me if you can

Ripper mate can't wait to see it in action.

Tomorrow morning hopefully

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Macaha said..

asea said..





10' 2" of pure speed catch me if you can

Ripper mate can't wait to see it in action.

Tomorrow morning hopefully

24 x ?

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10' 2" of pure speed catch me if you can

cool Asea bringing that one up for a point bash?

Yes Cobra next year

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asea said..

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10' 2" of pure speed catch me if you can

Ripper mate can't wait to see it in action.

Tomorrow morning hopefully

24 x ?

3 1/2 for the big boys

Nice..

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asea said..
Yes Cobra next year

Cool bananas

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10' 2" of pure speed catch me if you can

Nice buddy, good to see you're maturing.

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10' 2" of pure speed catch me if you can

Nice buddy, good to see you're maturing.

Lol finally at the end of my surfing

11 Sugar with a new rear end and belly

Nice

Geez, how good's that.
Thats the sort of shape that'd go well up here Mac.
Be keen to see how she turns out after glassing.
Sick.

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Geez, how good's that.
Thats the sort of shape that'd go well up here Mac.
Be keen to see how she turns out after glassing.
Sick.

Yeah I was thinking after a session on my old Sugar how would this board go without the rolled bottom and with model rails in the tail end.
So I picked up the phone and asked the question,it happened to be Bob was shaping a new one for himself with the same idea so they put him on the phone and he was 100% with me,I visited the factory to check Bobs board out which had been glassed by this time. It was what I was after so placed a order on the spot,the end result should be a much user friendly glider. Lucked in they had a stock blank so its on the move fast. This will has the same glide but with much more turning ability to get out of trouble from the crowd with will allow me to surf it more than my old one as I wouldnt take it out when the numbers were high.

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This one followed me home yesterday.

10' x 23 7/8 x 3 1/2, In The Pink

Not much swell at that break... :-(

Beautiful board BTW.

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damned67 said..
This one followed me home yesterday.

10' x 23 7/8 x 3 1/2, In The Pink

Not much swell at that break... :-(

Beautiful board BTW.

Interesting that you just bought that board up in the thread. I am literally sitting on the deck
of the Noosa surf club after the maiden voyage of a new 10 footer! Pics to come later.....

Macaha,
whats the theory behind losing the rolled/v-bottom?
my 12' Munoz is surprisingly manoeuvrable, for a 12 footer, and I always attributed that to the v-Bottom....
that said, I also run the 12' Munoz with a set up that most would think was underpinned, so that's probably helping in loosening up the tail.

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MangoDingo said..
Geez, how good's that.
Thats the sort of shape that'd go well up here Mac.
Be keen to see how she turns out after glassing.
Sick.

Yeah I was thinking after a session on my old Sugar how would this board go without the rolled bottom and with model rails in the tail end.
So I picked up the phone and asked the question,it happened to be Bob was shaping a new one for himself with the same idea so they put him on the phone and he was 100% with me,I visited the factory to check Bobs board out which had been glassed by this time. It was what I was after so placed a order on the spot,the end result should be a much user friendly glider. Lucked in they had a stock blank so its on the move fast. This will has the same glide but with much more turning ability to get out of trouble from the crowd with will allow me to surf it more than my old one as I wouldnt take it out when the numbers were high.

Mac,imo it will be hard to improve after watching Josie in the vid,that is beautiful surfing regardless of gender!.. but good luck with the new board.

Here's the new one- I need to get a better pic of the outline/plan shape/whatever it's called.... the angle in the pool pic doesn't do it justice.
10'1" x 24" x 3 1/2"
2x 6oz deck with 6oz knee patch, 1x 6 oz bottom with 6 oz fin patch.
Given I'm heavy footed and tend to surf off my back foot, next board I'll ask for the deck patch to run further to the tail.... if there's ever a heel compression in this one!

I'd been slowly saving up to buy a 'real' 10' Tak In The Pink from Northcoast. I love my 10' "Epoxy Flyer" ITP, but the build quality ain't so great. Please note that the "Epoxy Flyer" is not considered an 'official' Takayama product in many circles.

I also love my 9'6" Tea Tree, but I'm a big guy, unfit and unskilled, so I grab the ITP over the Tea Tree 90% of the time.
Knowing Josh at Creative Army had a lot to do with the design of the Tea Tree, and I'm always fascinated with fin set ups, I emailed Josh asking about what fin set up was considered in the design of the Tea Tree. I mentioned that I was looking to replace my ITP (despite being somewhat committed to saving for a 'real' ITP), and asked about a couple of boards on his website and how they compared to the ITP and Tea Tree.
Josh came back, answered my fin question, and said that he'd just added a new board to his range that he felt combined the best elements of the Tea Tree and the ITP. I shot Macaha a message, given he seems to have a whole bunch of knowledge about board builders, even outside of McTavish!, and his response pretty much convinced me to drop the coin on a board build, sight unseen. Worth noting, this is my first 'custom' board.

I had a great and informative chat with Josh about my skill level, waves I ride, what I like in boards etc, discussed a number of different options in his range, but settled on this one. His standard dims for the board at 10'1" is 23 something " (3/4?) x 3 1/2". He suggested pushing it out to 24" to give it a bit more volume.

I picked it up this morning. Rocked into his place, board was on stands... first impression blew me away.
On the stand, it really had my favourite elements of the Tea Tree and my favourite elements of the ITP.
Carrying it to the car, the weight was really evident. Heavier than I expected, but it truly feels 'solid' - like if it smashed me in the shin like my ITP did, rather than shattering the rail (as per my ITP - but remember, this is the 'epoxy flyer'), I'd end up with pins in my shin.
Certainly heavier than any of my other 10'-ish boards. But heavy in a good way.

Drove to the Noosa 'woods', between the groynes. Was coming up to high tide, waves were mushy and fat. Paddling out, it really just felt like 'my' board. Yes, I bought, so it is mine. But having my colour combo, and how solid the board felt, it really felt like 'mine'. Took me a few paddles to get my positioning on the board right. Outside of poor wave selection (of the poor waves on offer), I was seemingly often too far back. Once I got that sorted, I started catching a few. Sadly, nothing of note to get a real feel for the board, but once I ran onto the minuscule inside sections, dodging people on the inside, it really feels like it has the 'magic' that the Tea Tree has. You think about where you want the board, and it's already there. I need some better walls to see it really perform.

Josh provided specific fins for me that he felt would give me a good balance of 'tip time' (re: hold) and maneuverability. It feels like it may have a little too much 'hold' given nose riding is something I only dream of. I'll give it a few surfs as is, and may swap in my Takayama fins off my ITP for a few runs. I'll grab a photo of the fins tomorrow too.

Got home, stripped my rushed wax job off, took a couple of pics for you lot, then started rewaxing it in the basement- where the beer fridge is. Every time I've hit the beer fridge this arvo/evening, and there's been a fair few trips, I look at the board and think "Yep, that's the one".
I should add (and I've already been waffling, so what's a bit more), I was really paranoid about stripping the rushed wax job off.
I bought the "Epoxy Flyer" ITP damn close to a year ago (a week off). Rushed wax job, three quick waves, stripped the wax and the deck was already showing more foot compressions than I thought possible with three waves. Stripped the wax off this one, not surprisingly, not a single indent/compression/mark on the deck.

Right now, i couldn't be happier.

And if you've read all this, kudos to you. Or you really need to get a life. One of the two. Maybe even both?

Cheers!

Stunning board mate, yes I met Josh years ago up in Noosa I was impressed with how humble he was and I know Vanders was stoked dealing with him sometime back coupled that he is mates with Jas it was a no brainer.

Beautiful board, Damned67. Great write up, too. I don't have a life, I even scrolled ALL the way back up to give you a thumbs up.

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Greeney said..
Beautiful board, Damned67. Great write up, too. I don't have a life, I even scrolled ALL the way back up to give you a thumbs up.

I'm with you Greeney

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Greeney said..
Beautiful board, Damned67. Great write up, too. I don't have a life, I even scrolled ALL the way back up to give you a thumbs up.

I'm with you Greeney

I'm looking forward to the next installment, Jason/Damned.
(PS... re fin choices.... Skip Frye reckons: "Ninety percent of the surfing public uses too much fin. Big fins just increase a board's drag. If you get rid of that extra fin area, you're going to trim so much faster and blast through sections. Over the years my fins have gotten smaller and smaller.")

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re fin choices... Over the years my fins have gotten smaller and smaller.")

+1.
Absolutely spot on Greeney.

One of the first threads I ever stumbled upon in here, years ago, was a fin thread.
Back then the resident fin guru was Lacey.
And one of the first quotes I saw was about how many fins he owned and he said something like: "I have fins coming out my arse."
And I thought, this looks like a fun place to hang out.

P.S. More of Skip Frye's wisdom (from Surfer mag online: www.surfer.com/features/wisdom-skip-frye/ )

"Shaping and riding an 11- or 12-foot board really takes you back in time. The trim and the glide when you're on a board that long are incredible. I've heard a story of Duke Kahanamoku building himself a 16-foot board, back when he would mostly have ridden 10-foot boards. On his first ride he went so fast he screamed and hooted all the way to the beach. Back in the early '90s, those big boards were pretty much all I wanted to make. I felt like I was relating to the same stoke Duke had experienced."

I'll post pics of the fin set up when I'm at my computer later. I'm not saying Josh has over finned it - just finned it for a different purpose, being nose riding. It's a catch 22 - I leave these fins in and it probably gives up a bit of speed n trim, but will be easier to nose ride, but I can't nose ride, maybe because I'm typically under-finned for that?

but I do agree with the 'over finning' statement. I've got a 10' Sea Plane that, on Lacey's recommendation, goes by far the best with a 6.5" centre fin and about 4.5" side bites.
My 12' Munoz? Trust me that I ran pretty much every fin I own through that board. Best set up is 7.5" centre with 3.5" sides.
Cheers!

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I'll post pics of the fin set up when I'm at my computer later. I'm not saying Josh has over finned it - just finned it for a different purpose, being nose riding. It's a catch 22 - I leave these fins in and it probably gives up a bit of speed n trim, but will be easier to nose ride, but I can't nose ride, maybe because I'm typically under-finned for that?

but I do agree with the 'over finning' statement. I've got a 10' Sea Plane that, on Lacey's recommendation, goes by far the best with a 6.5" centre fin and about 4.5" side bites.
My 12' Munoz? Trust me that I ran pretty much every fin I own through that board. Best set up is 7.5" centre with 3.5" sides.
Cheers!

Yeah, Damned, I knew where you were coming from. There's no questioning the man's credentials.

Plan shape, rocker, and fins.
Centre fin is 8", sides are 4"
That centre fin probably isn't as 'big' as I first thought - just a lot more surface area than the DT Pivot fin I run in the ITP.


And yes, that part of the yard could do with a tidy up.

So, in terms of the plan shape, this Cruz, the Tea Tree and the ITP would be virtually indistinguishable.

Comparing rocker between the Tea Tree and the ITP, the ITP is much flatter and the Tea Tree has a more nose rocker. This Cruz looks like a perfect blend of the two - flatter than the Tea Tree and more nose rocker than the ITP.
I love how flat the ITP is, but the lack of rocker in the nose makes it easy to perl/pearl.

While I clearly need to get some decent surfs on the new board, it really does come across as a perfect bled of the two.

And why do I seem to have a thing for 'high performance nose riders' when I can't nose ride (or 'high performance' surf)?
Takayama says/said the ITP is '2/3rds nose rider, 1/3 performance longboard', or at least I think it was Takayama.
For me, I think the '2/3rds nose rider' gives it great stability and the '1/3 performance longboard' keeps it loose on the tail, where I tend to surf from, lending to great maneuverability. At least, that's my thoughts.

Cheers!

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So, in terms of the plan shape, this Cruz, the Tea Tree and the ITP would be virtually indistinguishable.

Comparing rocker between the Tea Tree and the ITP, the ITP is much flatter and the Tea Tree has a more nose rocker. This Cruz looks like a perfect blend of the two - flatter than the Tea Tree and more nose rocker than the ITP.
I love how flat the ITP is, but the lack of rocker in the nose makes it easy to perl/pearl.

While I clearly need to get some decent surfs on the new board, it really does come across as a perfect bled of the two.

And why do I seem to have a thing for 'high performance nose riders' when I can't nose ride (or 'high performance' surf)?
Takayama says/said the ITP is '2/3rds nose rider, 1/3 performance longboard', or at least I think it was Takayama.
For me, I think the '2/3rds nose rider' gives it great stability and the '1/3 performance longboard' keeps it loose on the tail, where I tend to surf from, lending to great maneuverability. At least, that's my thoughts.

Cheers!

The nose rails on the ITP are different to most noseriders they are dropped with a dulled edge under this makes the nose lift !!! But as Bob Mac says when they go under they keep diving and are hard to get back up above water again.Thats why most noseriders have beveled rails rising up from bottom to the deck much more forgiving !