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Well that's different.

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Created by DavidJohn > 9 months ago, 27 Feb 2016
DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
27 Feb 2016 9:55PM
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Antho
VIC, 516 posts
27 Feb 2016 10:26PM
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What is it David ?

Slab
1123 posts
27 Feb 2016 7:44PM
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Looking forward to hearing how this DW, races etc.....lots going on there

DavidJohn
VIC, 17569 posts
28 Feb 2016 3:57AM
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Antho said..
What is it David ?



The new Sunova DW board..

Area10
1508 posts
28 Feb 2016 3:13AM
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Fascinating. Good to see more innovation.

Looks like it might be roll a bit when you are paddling it though. Hard to tell from those pics though: we need more!

husq2100
QLD, 2031 posts
28 Feb 2016 6:45AM
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Rolled bottom?? Didn't the C4 TGIF model have a rolled bottom ?

Tardy
5292 posts
28 Feb 2016 4:51AM
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Nice. Wood ......Check the new RRD V2 full wood out ..had a look last time in Perth ..nice Finish ..was on the heavy side
but everybody who came into the shop couldn't take their eyes off it .as me ..V2 wood .
266 litre ..$$. ..it was a show piece.but heavy.
it will be interesting to see the sunova ..finished.

Slab
1123 posts
28 Feb 2016 7:37AM
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Single concave th length of the board and very sharp rail in the tail which is also slightly pulled in to give more surfabikity......so I am told.

It it will be interesting to see it properly....pics leave you guessing lots!

bobajob
QLD, 1535 posts
28 Feb 2016 3:18PM
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Slab said..
Single concave th length of the board and very sharp rail in the tail which is also slightly pulled in to give more surfabikity......so I am told.

It it will be interesting to see it properly....pics leave you guessing lots!


surfabikity - Noun: A biscuit to snack on between waves.

Does that mean you can now snack on your board in the surf when you get hungry?

AndyR
QLD, 1344 posts
28 Feb 2016 3:38PM
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husq2100 said...
Rolled bottom?? Didn't the C4 TGIF model have a rolled bottom ?


So do travis grants nsp's

Slab
1123 posts
28 Feb 2016 4:13PM
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bobajob said..

Slab said..
Single concave th length of the board and very sharp rail in the tail which is also slightly pulled in to give more surfabikity......so I am told.

It it will be interesting to see it properly....pics leave you guessing lots!



surfabikity - Noun: A biscuit to snack on between waves.

Does that mean you can now snack on your board in the surf when you get hungry?


Must be a new design feature......where did that come from ha haaa!

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
28 Feb 2016 6:32PM
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looking and seeming like its a bit like the ace but with some edges.


not a bad place to start

Tardy
5292 posts
28 Feb 2016 5:24PM
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bobajob said..


Slab said..
Single concave th length of the board and very sharp rail in the tail which is also slightly pulled in to give more surfabikity......so I am told.

It it will be interesting to see it properly....pics leave you guessing lots!




surfabikity - Noun: A biscuit to snack on between waves.

Does that mean you can now snack on your board in the surf when you get hungry?



I like Tim Tams ..it s my dark side.

JohnnyMaya
196 posts
28 Feb 2016 6:19PM
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That looks different... and awesome!

Having seen some of their race boards, it make me really excited to have the first looks on the new downwind model.
Also, knowing that theres a few aussie legends involved in the R&D of this model, it wouldn't be of any surprise if it would come out as a BOMB!

Johnny

Slab
1123 posts
28 Feb 2016 7:41PM
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Th 14 X 27 is weighing in about 10 kg....I could carry two!

GMilne
NSW, 33 posts
29 Feb 2016 1:45PM
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I Bought a Sunova board for my wife last year from the guys @Balmoral Pabble surf.

Every time we take it out people cant take their eyes of it. Great fun and quick to paddle in flat water, not designed for Downwinding this board. I am waiting for the new boards to arrive before i decide which board for me.




Sorry about the poor pic, its all i have at hand.

Area10
1508 posts
29 Feb 2016 11:12AM
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I hope they see sense and ditch the LiftSUP handle for this model.

If they are looking for suggestions, the best handles are the SIC ones, and the very similar Blue Planet ones. If you've never experienced the convenience of that style, then you've got a transformational experience coming, especially in wind.

(Sunova:if you can't use the SIC/BP ones then the super-deep ledge handles like on the recent Surftech Barks are pretty good. Then after that comes strap handles, and then trailing those by a long way are the FCS style narrow handles without a ledge, like boards used to have: thank heavens most do not any more. And then last of all are the liftsup handles, which are just plain dangerous in shorebreak because you can't get them open in a hurry and they frequently jam.)

supsurfers
QLD, 171 posts
29 Feb 2016 6:00PM
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Almost here very excited to test....





Slab
1123 posts
29 Feb 2016 6:43PM
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Area10 said..
I hope they see sense and ditch the LiftSUP handle for this model.

If they are looking for suggestions, the best handles are the SIC ones, and the very similar Blue Planet ones. If you've never experienced the convenience of that style, then you've got a transformational experience coming, especially in wind.

(Sunova:if you can't use the SIC/BP ones then the super-deep ledge handles like on the recent Surftech Barks are pretty good. Then after that comes strap handles, and then trailing those by a long way are the FCS style narrow handles without a ledge, like boards used to have: thank heavens most do not any more. And then last of all are the liftsup handles, which are just plain dangerous in shorebreak because you can't get them open in a hurry and they frequently jam.)


Naish and Jimmy Lewis also have very good handles.....ledge types. They are to use the LiftSup handles btw and argue there are pros and cons of each. I would prefer a ledge open one myself.

flowmaster
359 posts
3 Mar 2016 12:17AM
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small movie on Facebook Sunovas Portugal

link: www.facebook.com/SunovaSupPT/?ref=ts&fref=ts

Area10
1508 posts
3 Mar 2016 2:11AM
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I was recently offered a Sunova board at a very good price, and was very tempted. But I was put off by the awful experiences I've had with the LiftSUP handles on other boards.

So, if you are reading this Sunova, I can tell you that you've lost at least one sale because of it. No-one on the forums is jumping to the defence of LiftSUP handles, and in fact at the moment there's a thread running which is describing ways of dealing with it's shortcomings.

So, pretty please, listen to your potential customers, and fit a decent handle. Especially on an ocean board. Thanks.

The video shows a very interesting board though. Definitely a bit similar to the Vapor/DC, but enough of it's own style to be something new. I'd like to try one for sure.

Slab
1123 posts
3 Mar 2016 2:29AM
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I was recently offered a Sunova board at a very good price, and was very tempted. But I was put off by the awful experiences I've had with the LiftSUP handles on other boards.

So, if you are reading this Sunova, I can tell you that you've lost at least one sale because of it. No-one on the forums is jumping to the defence of LiftSUP handles, and in fact at the moment there's a thread running which is describing ways of dealing with it's shortcomings.

So, pretty please, listen to your potential customers, and fit a decent handle. Especially on an ocean board. Thanks.

The video shows a very interesting board though. Definitely a bit similar to the Vapor/DC, but enough of it's own style to be something new. I'd like to try one for sure.


aha....I had two concerns about these handles....1. Not good for long distance carrying because your hand is not side the board 2. It sticking or being fiddly with gloves on.

ah well.....back to the Allstar

AA
NSW, 2167 posts
3 Mar 2016 11:38AM
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Personally I have been surfing and racing boards with LiftSUP handles for almost 5 years.
Professionally have been selling LiftSUP handles for 4 years with boards from Boardwalks, SUP ATX , Lahui Kai and now SUNOVA.
We also use them in our School and Demo Fleet. We are talking 100's if not 1000's of boards.
I can honestly say we have never had any issues or complaints from anyone.
Women and families love them (the board feels half the weight when carrying them) and most people who buy one for the first time soon grow to love them. No other handle gives you the security when lifting aboard above your head. No other handle can be used to lock your board up if you leave it (great for solo downwinders ).
I have no doubt some have had issues, but if you use the handle of a board as an excuse to not look at a brand, only one persons looses out.

Area10
1508 posts
3 Mar 2016 9:41AM
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AA - both the SIC and the Blue Planet handles give you better security when lifting above your head, and you can also use them to lock up your board.

But neither the SIC or the Blue Planet handles will jam on you, dig into your palm on long walks, or mean you've got nothing to hold onto if you need to grab the board in a hurry in a shorebreak.

The handle is an important part of a board - especially longer ones - in terms of day to day ownership, and a poor one is an irritation every time you use the board, whereas a good one reminds you every time how well the shaper understands the paddlers needs. If the handle on the board means my wife can't carry the board to the car without complaining, then I'm not buying the board.

The LiftSUP handle was a good idea in theory, but in practice it just doesn't work as well as other solutions IMO. But clearly we differ on this point, and you are entitled to try to sell as many boards with LiftSUP handles in them as you wish.

HBsups
79 posts
4 Mar 2016 2:00AM
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I'm with AA. I've done some long carries with my Speeed and the liftSUP handle is a plus rather than a minus. Super comfy on the hands. Also makes it easy to manuver the board and I've not come close to jamming the handle (6months of ownership). The only downside is getting the frik'n water to drain out of the cavity Before sticking it on the car!
hb

Area10
1508 posts
4 Mar 2016 3:29AM
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Anyway, whatever your thoughts on the handle, this looks like an interesting board and I hope someone can try it out soon and give us a report. It's great to see so many ocean-capable boards coming onto the market: given that the main growth over the last few years has been with inland flat water paddling, I was concerned a while ago that this sort of board would become a rarity. So I'm delighted to see this board, and I rather look the like of it so far. Do we know the dimensions and volume yet?

Sunova are great value here in Europe, and it's promising that this isn't just another Cobra board, assuming the brand keep a close eye on what goes on in the factory.

flowmaster
359 posts
4 Mar 2016 3:44AM
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I've only tested my 9.2 Speeed twice and had to use gloves for the cold temperatures that we have here now.
I had no problems using 2 mm gloves lifting the handle and lifting my board, there once was a lot off sand on top off my board from playing dogs next to it and sand in the handle, but no problems using it.
I had a SIC once and sure it's a good handle as wel but I have no problems using the lift up handle and do not understand why it should a problem for a longer downwind board.
If you enter races where you have to run in en out the water, thats where I understand that the SIC handle might be better, but you can Always use the stick on way and get a handle where ever you want it to be.

Back on track I like the looks of the wood construction, But I'm f@cked for life after using SIC for downwinds, this nose is not for me, I'm into the V4 SIC but went over to the dark side and into a surfski for downwinding .

supsurfers
QLD, 171 posts
4 Mar 2016 12:47PM
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They will be from 24 thru to 29 wide..

JohnnyMaya
196 posts
5 Mar 2016 5:00AM
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In 1" increments (24", 25", 26", 27", 28 and 29")!!!

chucktheskiffie
220 posts
5 Mar 2016 5:43AM
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Sunova must be kicking some goals to put so many SKUs together... unless they are made to order?

If not i hope they arent over-extending...



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