Hey guys does anyone know much about these new sunova boards that Sean Poynter and Daniel Hughes have been working on. They look the goods ????

Dunno Dan - looking very sick. loving the clean deck without the grip.
check these out below off Insty...


and close up below.
check the hip.

"GenRationAt Sunova we are always looking at partnering with the best in there fields, and when you are talking about the SUP N Surf world it's very hard to look past Sean Poynter and Ian "Kanga" Cairns. Ian is one of the originals, pushing the sport of professional surfing to the next level! Sean is no different, a multiple world champion, he is a modern day SUP surfer, pushing the limits of the sport itself. Together these two are an unstoppable team and we are glad to be working with them to launch the GenRation series. There will be a separate GenRation range, that will embody the essence of high performance SUP surfing. These are super high-performance boards and will set the bar on that level new."

sunovasurfboards.com/en/events/sunova-suns-dealermeeting2019?PageSpeed=noscript

A couple more pics I found on insta. One looks like it has a step down deck.

I wanna see the Kanga dimensions and volume.

nice acid .

The Wedge looks like stepped rails and five fin setup. Great to see Sunova pushing the envelope. This will be fun to see how the release and reviews start coming out. These boards without deck pads are beautiful works of art.

Cheers

Bob

Bit more info on one of the boards

That last pic looks remarkably similar to a board called the Shregg my mate had built up by Sunova (see the thread on it for details)

Stepped decks have been experienced with for a few years now by Portal Surf Designs; hardly a new concept.

What's been surprising is it's taken that long for a major brand to take up the concept; i'd have thought all the major brands would be all over it by now.

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akesy said..
Stepped decks have been experienced with for a few years now by Portal Surf Designs; hardly a new concept.

What's been surprising is it's taken that long for a major brand to take up the concept; i'd have thought all the major brands would be all over it by now.

I tried them 10 years ago on an Imagine, and was not impressed. I guess because at the time boards had more volume, and stepped rails raised the thickness of the board make it feel like standing atop a boat.

Maybe with modern low volume boards stepped rails make more sense?

Bert (Sunova) has used stepped deck in the past.
This one is the Shroom from my 2016 video... a bit off topic of the Genration boards, but since you are discussing stepdecks....
Plus I think I see similar design work on the Genration instagram profile shot.
Doubtful the Genration has much concave in the bottom, since there is no wide tail to overcome.

The Shroom is a very interesting board with all sorts of things going on.
Note.... this is my hackers explanation of what I feel when turning my 8'3 Shroom:
I imagine Bert was trying to overcome the usual issues with wide tail boards, without any real hips or rail curve.

The deck has a massive concave and the bottom does as well.
They work with the step down rails give an awesome "bite" that truly carves a snappy turn.

My cross section diagram is what I feel when applying the combination of concaves and steprail.
The pic shows the degree of step in the rail and the deep concave on the deck.

Here are all the dimensions for the 3x board models. Good to see a large range of sizes.

They all seem to be quite high volume for what looks like a relatively shortboardy shape- especially the wedge seems to have high volume given how narrow it is??
The 8'4 is basically the same dims as my jimmy lewis supertech but has over 10l more volume?!
both the SP and Kanga are also higher volume. They must be quite thick to have those kind of figures?

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benjl said..
They all seem to be quite high volume for what looks like a relatively shortboardy shape- especially the wedge seems to have high volume given how narrow it is??
The 8'4 is basically the same dims as my jimmy lewis supertech but has over 10l more volume?!
both the SP and Kanga are also higher volume. They must be quite thick to have those kind of figures?

Yes I was thinking the exact same thing.....

I love it. Wedge sizes listed are roughly the same length width ratio as the Acid, but with at least 10 extra liters of volume. That step rail must be doing some real work. I'd love to see one rail to rail next to an similar sized Acid. If they can keep the rail, why not add the volume and ride smaller?

I know what my next boards going to be then ..great sizes to choose from ...8,7 or 8,6 for me .

They look heaps like the Infinity Blurr V2. Same rails and very similar plan shape.

wow, basically $3K once you add a pad and fins.and I presume this includes shipping to AUS... website is pretty average and doesn't give much info and poor board pics... This is a USA based brand only??? Are the boards made in thai factory???

I'm a little bit dubious, as I feel plan shape plays a big part in stability.

So with 2 boards with the same plan shape but one with a step deck and 10l more volume, will the step deck really be more stable?

I love the high volume 9 footers, gives us bulkyboys options

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bomberdave said..
wow, basically $3K once you add a pad and fins.and I presume this includes shipping to AUS... website is pretty average and doesn't give much info and poor board pics... This is a USA based brand only??? Are the boards made in thai factory???

Boards are made at Sunova's Thai factory from what I can read...

Yeah AUD$2580 for board + $260 (deckpad + fins)...

Getting up there, but I guess with the AUD$ dropping over 15% over the last 12 months against the USD$ what choice do they have?

From what their Website says, freight is on top of these prices also.

Would be interesting to compare a Wedge to a Sunova Placid...

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I'm a little bit dubious, as I feel plan shape plays a big part in stability.

So with 2 boards with the same plan shape but one with a step deck and 10l more volume, will the step deck really be more stable?

No, but with 10L more volume, you can buy the smaller size instead and enjoy the performance gains. I think with these new generation of step railed high performance boards you need a really tight weight to volume ratio to enjoy the benefits. You can get away with an oversized Jimmy Lewis, I'll not sure you'll be able to with these.

But I haven't been on one, so its all just speculation for now.

Exiled and Hoppo asked about comparisons to both a similar sized Acid and the new Placid .. so here are a few over lays , 7-4 Wedge v 7-3 Placid , both about 80 liters.. Then a 7-4 Wedge v 7-10 Acid , again both around 80 liters..
The Placid design came from Marcus Tardrew , his initial concept was to come up with a blend of the Acid and the Hipster by Scotty Mckercher..
the Wedge Came from Daniel Hughes with both designs being completely independent.. the only real similarity is the use of a double flyer...




All boards feature similar bottom contours , but the Placid has a noticeable tail flip and a heavy V out the tail..

Regards
BERT

That's really cool. Those step rails are something else. I'd love to see the rails of 7'4 wedge next to a 7'4 acid to get an idea of where the extra volume gets put.

Thank you Bert for the images. Very helpful.

should be good for me ,i can ride a shorter board .and keep my volume .if theres one thing i would change on my acids is the length ...shorter ..
for tight smaller waves ,this could be it .





this is a 9,1 .125 litre .acid .

Hi Bert. Are these boards going to be available on the sunova site and also retailed at sunova dealers world wide? Cheers Dan

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BertBurger said..
Exiled and Hoppo asked about comparisons to both a similar sized Acid and the new Placid .. so here are a few over lays , 7-4 Wedge v 7-3 Placid , both about 80 liters.. Then a 7-4 Wedge v 7-10 Acid , again both around 80 liters..
The Placid design came from Marcus Tardrew , his initial concept was to come up with a blend of the Acid and the Hipster by Scotty Mckercher..
the Wedge Came from Daniel Hughes with both designs being completely independent.. the only real similarity is the use of a double flyer...




All boards feature similar bottom contours , but the Placid has a noticeable tail flip and a heavy V out the tail..

Regards
BERT

Daniels design was originally shaped by Dave Daum of King's Paddlesports in California.

Humble saying, I point on the fact that step rail allows having a thinner rail on the front part of the board. Usually, SUP has a fat rail enable to engage the face with the front foot as needed for a backside tube ride. Step rail does it while keeping some buoyancy at the front part of the board for longitudinal paddling stability.

Like Dave Boehne says in this video about the Blurr v2 , the step rail concept is not new and has several advantages. The most important one is that you can keep your regular volume but with much thinner rails.


I've been riding a Blurr v2 7'8 x 25.5" (79 liters) since the beginning of the year and was able to step down in size, width, volume and even going to a more performance oriented outline, as I expain in this review I posted a couple of days ago: www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/Infinity-Blurr-v2--with-a-comparison-to-the-B-Line?page=1

Here are a few pics of the step rails on the Blurr.