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I have a loose screw

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Created by GizzieNZ > 9 months ago, 16 Dec 2013
GizzieNZ
4103 posts
16 Dec 2013 3:03PM
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One of my fcs side fin front screws has started "not tightening up"
Chucked some JB weld type stuff into the "female part"
whacked some thread tape around the male bit before inserting and screwing
Doing the job so far but maybe there are other solutions?

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
16 Dec 2013 3:56PM
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dont over tighten them. hard thing to do when you have lost so many fins

Mahanumah
VIC, 336 posts
16 Dec 2013 6:56PM
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Next size up on the screw?

Haven't had that problem yet. Only ptoblem I had was the key getting worn and not undoing one. New key fixed that instantly.

colas
5370 posts
16 Dec 2013 5:03PM
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Best solution so far is the one by Umberto: www.gong-galaxy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=69049

key points:
- IMPORTANT: tap the hole with a bigger tap first, to provide anchor for the resin.
- fill the hole with epoxy resin heavily loaded with microspheres (IMPORTANT) & bits of fiber (Umberto adds also some thickener, I don't)
- let cure plenty of time, if possible at 30-40C for maximum hardening (at least one day)
- drill a hole smaller in diameter than the tap
- tap with a "UNC 10-24 tap"

Ta-Da, you now have a screw hole better than new!

Leroy13
VIC, 1174 posts
16 Dec 2013 11:25PM
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colas said..

Best solution so far is the one by Umberto: www.gong-galaxy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=69049

key points:
- IMPORTANT: tap the hole with a bigger tap first, to provide anchor for the resin.
- fill the hole with epoxy resin heavily loaded with microspheres (IMPORTANT) & bits of fiber (Umberto adds also some thickener, I don't)
- let cure plenty of time, if possible at 30-40C for maximum hardening (at least one day)
- drill a hole smaller in diameter than the tap
- tap with a "UNC 10-24 tap"

Ta-Da, you now have a screw hole better than new!


Or take it to someone that can do what Colas suggests

supthecreek
2750 posts
16 Dec 2013 8:52PM
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Come to think of it...
If we ALL have to baby our screws and constantly check that our high priced fins are not loose.... then something is wrong with the system.

Even cheapo dodads have threaded metal inserts to provide a secure tightening..... why don't $2,000 boards, that require aftermarket $120 fins???

Come on surf industry.... surely you can improve this crappy arrangement.

hilly
WA, 7979 posts
16 Dec 2013 9:33PM
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Futures are a better system

stimo
WA, 874 posts
16 Dec 2013 10:09PM
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hilly said..

Futures are a better system


Yep for sure School hols yet hilly

colas
5370 posts
16 Dec 2013 10:18PM
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supthecreek said..
If we ALL have to baby our screws and constantly check that our high priced fins are not loose.... then something is wrong with the system.


Personally, I only had problems when I buy boards (new or used), not afterwards, so I do not have to worry about it. It is just part of the regular routine when you buy a board: inspect for transport damage, sand the fins, glue the pad, apply the monster paint, try on the bag... stand on the board on the bed imagining riding it :-)
So it is not such a big problem after all.

Alternatives exist: the Pro Box, or FCS new screwless fin box. I do not like the Future system, as it seems to always have some lateral loosenes, and having2 different box standards (front/rear) is plain insane (plus there are no C-Drives in Future format :-). Too bad as future makes some really great fins. But the Pro Box definitively seems the way of the future.

Zeusman
QLD, 1363 posts
17 Dec 2013 5:20AM
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I've had the same issue a couple of times. Fixed it by filling the hole with epoxy while fin is in the box, then inserting the grub screw. Epoxy sets then take screw out & a new thread is created. All good!

towball
4634 posts
17 Dec 2013 9:35AM
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GizzieNZ said..

One of my fcs side fin front screws has started "not tightening up"
Chucked some JB weld type stuff into the "female part"
whacked some thread tape around the male bit before inserting and screwing
Doing the job so far but maybe there are other solutions?


Time for new board

sup46
WA, 40 posts
17 Dec 2013 6:03PM
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ive got a tip: do not try and fix a wobbly fin by tightening the screw! that will strip thread for sure (like mine). instead, run a layer (or two) of duct tape along the 3sides of the fin base then jam the fin into the slot. solid as. and out of sight. then do up the screw nice and gently. my epoxy thread repair attempt is a bit iffy, think i'll try a larger screw next.

dean75
49 posts
17 Dec 2013 7:06PM
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I have this problem with one of my fcs grub screws on a new board the shop where I got it from said just put next size grub screw in the board hasn't hit the water yet.

Jeroensurf
1097 posts
18 Dec 2013 6:26AM
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sup46 said..

ive got a tip: do not try and fix a wobbly fin by tightening the screw! that will strip thread for sure (like mine). instead, run a layer (or two) of duct tape along the 3sides of the fin base then jam the fin into the slot. solid as. and out of sight. then do up the screw nice and gently. my epoxy thread repair attempt is a bit iffy, think i'll try a larger screw next.



Even better add glass and 1sec glue at the fins "feet".
This is thin enough to laminate with and is stiffer (less play) and neater.
Just needs some sanding.

Southwesterly
112 posts
18 Dec 2013 11:54AM
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supthecreek said..

Come to think of it...
If we ALL have to baby our screws and constantly check that our high priced fins are not loose.... then something is wrong with the system.

Even cheapo dodads have threaded metal inserts to provide a secure tightening..... why don't $2,000 boards, that require aftermarket $120 fins???

Come on surf industry.... surely you can improve this crappy arrangement.


Plus 1

GizzieNZ
4103 posts
18 Dec 2013 4:50PM
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chrispy said..

dont over tighten them. hard thing to do when you have lost so many fins


yes ....thought it might be damage associated with a fin snap

GizzieNZ
4103 posts
18 Dec 2013 4:56PM
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towball said..

GizzieNZ said..

One of my fcs side fin front screws has started "not tightening up"
Chucked some JB weld type stuff into the "female part"
whacked some thread tape around the male bit before inserting and screwing
Doing the job so far but maybe there are other solutions?


Time for new board


but I like this one......on the other hand I remember when you sold your Hokua 9'5 or whatever it was and bought a new one lol



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