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How thin is too thin?

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Created by Intrinsik > 9 months ago, 8 Nov 2010
Intrinsik
SA, 59 posts
8 Nov 2010 10:32AM
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Production boards are getting down to 3 3/4"- 3 1/2" thick now, how thin do people think SUPs can go before they snap in half too easily or fail to float anyone over 60kg?

I reakon a 3" board would float me, and feel more connected to the wave, but pretty expensive mistake if it folds in half after the first pounding in the surf.

Still looking at people with their feet underwater and wondering how they get onto the wave if their board is subsurface.

It will be interesting to see where this sport goes in the next few years re short-board design: whether people will go back to bigger boards and surfing or pursue the ultimate hybrid [although ultimate and hybrid sound like a paradox on reflection].

Anyway that's enough from me- unleash thy opinions!

husq2100
QLD, 2031 posts
10 Nov 2010 12:08PM
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thickness alone will not determine strength and or boyancy. Board proportions, construction etc will play an important roll.

Serg

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
10 Nov 2010 1:40PM
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IMO the trick is to keep the volume in the center and middle of the board and reduce the volume in the nose and tail and in particular the rails.

My DTM custom is 4 and half inches thick at the thickest point but thins out considerably towards the rails via a domed deck. This provides enough volume (approx 102 litres) for me to paddle fairly well even though the water does lap much of the deck.

If you go thinner you have to go wider to maintain the same volume; this is detrimental to performance IMO.

Some people will prefer bigger more bouyant boards, while some - like myself - don't mind wrestling constantly with the ocean in return for the quantum leap in performance. The other trick will be to not go too short like some of the 'egg plan shapes' we are seeing on the sub 8 footers. I reckon 8'6" is about as short as i will go on a pointy nose design at 82 kilos.

Intrinsik
SA, 59 posts
10 Nov 2010 5:13PM
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Ah, so going by what you say Goaty- stepped deck [ie thin rails with central volume] is the way forward for other sunken wrestlers... have you tried one?

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
11 Nov 2010 12:52PM
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Thin rails are definately the go IMO - as for step decks, haven't tried em, but can see how they would work. From a production point of view they would be a hassle to do in a custom board.

dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
11 Nov 2010 7:30PM
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gee goatie dont give to much away champ some of that stuff is on the down low hush hush side of things

Simondo
VIC, 8024 posts
13 Nov 2010 9:18PM
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I only read your 1st/top post. But 3" in obviously very common for malibu surfboards. But yes, I know malibu's are prone to snapping in bigger waves like double overhead Bells..... More board, more area, gives the waves more leverage to snap it.

Stringers are used for a structural reason, but I am still surprised that so many SUP's are stringer less.

But yes, a certain amount of flex is good, but board snapping flex is not good !!

There's one or two guys doing very nice flex tail work with mid length short boards, like 7'0 and above.... (not SUP).

supadvisor
10 posts
16 Nov 2010 7:04AM
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Have a look at Leco Salazar's SUP board at the next video:



This is too thin!!!, but obviously it's only too thin for us mere mortals, because Leco has no problem on it.

goatman
NSW, 2151 posts
17 Nov 2010 10:26AM
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supadvisor said...
This is too thin!!!, but obviously it's only too thin for us mere mortals, because Leco has no problem on it.


Love watching that guy SUP - but if you look at him paddling it out, he has a tonne of excess buoyancy even though it does look quite thin.

I would say that board is not overly wide either which would suggest he is relatively light - approx 70kg maybe.

roachy
NSW, 391 posts
20 Nov 2010 7:21AM
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awesome vid , that guy rocks, wouldnt mind what he is riding? very flat rocker it looks like, what width and thickness would that be?

Kagey
569 posts
20 Nov 2010 3:48PM
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I was speaking to this fella in the lineup last week he told me he'd been on a Josh Constable SUP in Noosa that was 3 1/2" thick and went like a dream. He said it was roughly 11' in length but as it was so thin it had a real longboard feel to it. I have to admit i'm dreaming up dimensions for something similar.

surferazul
6 posts
27 Nov 2010 7:21AM
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Hi leco´s board brand is NEW ADVANCE (brazil) you can google their site.
Board is 8´8 x 28 inches and 4 inches thick. He does weight around 70kg.

towball
4634 posts
27 Nov 2010 1:41PM
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Kagey said...

I was speaking to this fella in the lineup last week he told me he'd been on a Josh Constable SUP in Noosa that was 3 1/2" thick and went like a dream. He said it was roughly 11' in length but as it was so thin it had a real longboard feel to it. I have to admit i'm dreaming up dimensions for something similar.


Gee Kagey you mean you had some swell up there ?

towball
4634 posts
27 Nov 2010 1:53PM
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Kagey
Gizzie has been riding a Surftech Mikey Munoz 12'long 3"3/8 thick I just got one too so I can keep up with him on the river. T B

Kagey
569 posts
27 Nov 2010 4:26PM
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Yeah we had a wave roll through...

I had one of those Mickey Munoz boards a while back and it was ok, I was sure it was 4" thick though?

I saw on the news last night about the swell you lot are about to get

towball
4634 posts
28 Nov 2010 10:13AM
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Year we getting swell now I just made over one face 12 to 15ft the guys recon Giz was riding the munoz lol.

Kagey said...

Yeah we had a wave roll through...

I had one of those Mickey Munoz boards a while back and it was ok, I was sure it was 4" thick though?

I saw on the news last night about the swell you lot are about to get


Kagey
569 posts
28 Nov 2010 2:25PM
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That's awesome thanks for that..

Just about to have some therapeutic time by sitting down and watching 'Living the Stoke' for the first time on my new tele...first time I've got the tv to myself my copy of the movie has been here for a few days!

towball
4634 posts
6 Dec 2010 9:50AM
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Kagey I have got my JL Mano sitting ontop of the munoz it looks alot thicker than the munoz

Kagey said...

Yeah we had a wave roll through...

I had one of those Mickey Munoz boards a while back and it was ok, I was sure it was 4" thick though?

I saw on the news last night about the swell you lot are about to get




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