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Created by tassiesup > 9 months ago, 14 Feb 2013
tassiesup
TAS, 477 posts
14 Feb 2013 9:07PM
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It has come to our attention that there seems to be way too much industry driven threads and biaised advise given on the site and obviously some people arent happy about it - and its also apparent that many dont give a rats either.
For anyone out there interested in reviews and advise from non- pros who dont "rip" and dont get off on posting endless gopro footage of themselves and have absolutely zero industry/brand/shaper affiliation then feel free to PM or post to us at tassiesup and ask all the dumb questions and board advice you want.
We aren't australias best sup'ers but we are all competant surfers and paddlers - we mostly ride a wide variety of all the latest boards on the market - we have very good relationships with local and interstate retailers and we get absolutely nothing from them other than excellent service (usually)
We all surf and paddle in different places on a variety of different sups and we constantly share our boards and our thoughts and experiances with each other.
We also mostly all have mates/ girlfriends/wives/ kids etc who are just geting into sup so we can really relate to the needs of the new sup'ers and those paddling with, and teaching them.
We get literally dozens of emails each week asking for board advice and from people just wanting to talk shlt - we just love it and love sharing our love for it.

So if theres anything you wanna know or want us to find out for you drop us a line or post your thoughts and questions.

2MT
TAS, 585 posts
14 Feb 2013 10:03PM
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Yep .. I agree completely.

Another aspiration of Tassie SUP is to get SUPers together
for comp, demo and fun events.

Can't wait for winter so we can have round two
of the Tassie SUP Perpetual Winter Classic and BYO Demmo Day.
All States invited
Winner takes all
State title up for grabs

Me and Skatehead (current title holder) will be doing
intensive pre-comp training in Fiji.

We are even hoping that Spencer will come back
to defend the KFC Encouragement Award.

2MT
TAS, 585 posts
14 Feb 2013 10:11PM
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Sorry

I omitted Clifton who is State BOP champion
and Annie who is Ladies State BOP and Wave champ.

Hope they will also defend their titles.

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
14 Feb 2013 9:36PM
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2MT said...
Sorry

I omitted Clifton who is State BOP champion
and Annie who is Ladies State BOP and Wave champ.

Hope they will also defend their titles.



so what are they paddling

tassiesup
TAS, 477 posts
15 Feb 2013 11:02AM
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laceys lane said...
2MT said...
Sorry

I omitted Clifton who is State BOP champion
and Annie who is Ladies State BOP and Wave champ.

Hope they will also defend their titles.



so what are they paddling


BOP in Tassie is open to all sups and not just the chest-beating race board owners - this allows all ages/ levels and budgets to compete and be competitive (with handicapping)
We are about having fun and getting everyone involved no matter how much money you have or how good you are - we even have sup'ers that dont even own boards or paddles yet !! If they wanna turn up and have a crack we find gear for them to use until they are ready to get their own stuff.
Some say we are years behind in sup - we choose to think we are a decade ahead !

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
15 Feb 2013 10:16AM
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tassiesup said...
laceys lane said...
2MT said...
Sorry

I omitted Clifton who is State BOP champion
and Annie who is Ladies State BOP and Wave champ.

Hope they will also defend their titles.



so what are they paddling


BOP in Tassie is open to all sups and not just the chest-beating race board owners - this allows all ages/ levels and budgets to compete and be competitive (with handicapping)
We are about having fun and getting everyone involved no matter how much money you have or how good you are - we even have sup'ers that dont even own boards or paddles yet !! If they wanna turn up and have a crack we find gear for them to use until they are ready to get their own stuff.
Some say we are years behind in sup - we choose to think we are a decade ahead !



hmmm, didn't see the funny side hey

oh well, back to being serious

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
15 Feb 2013 11:31AM
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laceys lane said...
tassiesup said...
laceys lane said...
2MT said...
Sorry

I omitted Clifton who is State BOP champion
and Annie who is Ladies State BOP and Wave champ.

Hope they will also defend their titles.



so what are they paddling


BOP in Tassie is open to all sups and not just the chest-beating race board owners - this allows all ages/ levels and budgets to compete and be competitive (with handicapping)
We are about having fun and getting everyone involved no matter how much money you have or how good you are - we even have sup'ers that dont even own boards or paddles yet !! If they wanna turn up and have a crack we find gear for them to use until they are ready to get their own stuff.
Some say we are years behind in sup - we choose to think we are a decade ahead !



hmmm, didn't see the funny side hey

oh well, back to being serious


Lacey, you're just a chest beater. I'd like to be a chest beater but I don't have one that can stand the punishment.

petedorries
QLD, 700 posts
15 Feb 2013 10:47AM
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tassiesup said...
laceys lane said...
2MT said...
Sorry

I omitted Clifton who is State BOP champion
and Annie who is Ladies State BOP and Wave champ.

Hope they will also defend their titles.



so what are they paddling


BOP in Tassie is open to all sups and not just the chest-beating race board owners - this allows all ages/ levels and budgets to compete and be competitive (with handicapping)
We are about having fun and getting everyone involved no matter how much money you have or how good you are - we even have sup'ers that dont even own boards or paddles yet !! If they wanna turn up and have a crack we find gear for them to use until they are ready to get their own stuff.
Some say we are years behind in sup - we choose to think we are a decade ahead !


Or maybe your doing nothing different to anyone else??????

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
15 Feb 2013 1:21PM
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PTWoody said...
laceys lane said...
tassiesup said...
laceys lane said...
2MT said...
Sorry

I omitted Clifton who is State BOP champion
and Annie who is Ladies State BOP and Wave champ.

Hope they will also defend their titles.



so what are they paddling


BOP in Tassie is open to all sups and not just the chest-beating race board owners - this allows all ages/ levels and budgets to compete and be competitive (with handicapping)
We are about having fun and getting everyone involved no matter how much money you have or how good you are - we even have sup'ers that dont even own boards or paddles yet !! If they wanna turn up and have a crack we find gear for them to use until they are ready to get their own stuff.
Some say we are years behind in sup - we choose to think we are a decade ahead !



hmmm, didn't see the funny side hey

oh well, back to being serious


Lacey, you're just a chest beater. I'd like to be a chest beater but I don't have one that can stand the punishment.


why do you say that pt. i just thought it would be fun to ask what their champs are paddling after the non commercial spiel post which i happen to think is a good thing.

far out every ones got their serious friday heads on

sharpie
NSW, 347 posts
15 Feb 2013 3:53PM
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chest beating race board owners!!!!!!!!!!!
best laugh i've had for yonks

PTWoody
VIC, 3982 posts
15 Feb 2013 3:59PM
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laceys lane said...
PTWoody said...
laceys lane said...
tassiesup said...
laceys lane said...
2MT said...
Sorry

I omitted Clifton who is State BOP champion
and Annie who is Ladies State BOP and Wave champ.

Hope they will also defend their titles.



so what are they paddling


BOP in Tassie is open to all sups and not just the chest-beating race board owners - this allows all ages/ levels and budgets to compete and be competitive (with handicapping)
We are about having fun and getting everyone involved no matter how much money you have or how good you are - we even have sup'ers that dont even own boards or paddles yet !! If they wanna turn up and have a crack we find gear for them to use until they are ready to get their own stuff.
Some say we are years behind in sup - we choose to think we are a decade ahead !



hmmm, didn't see the funny side hey

oh well, back to being serious


Lacey, you're just a chest beater. I'd like to be a chest beater but I don't have one that can stand the punishment.


why do you say that pt. i just thought it would be fun to ask what their champs are paddling after the non commercial spiel post which i happen to think is a good thing.

far out every ones got their serious friday heads on


Me? Never. But I also thought your initial question was perfectly reasonable, as well as amusing.

skebstebamal
QLD, 579 posts
15 Feb 2013 3:44PM
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matt18
VIC, 534 posts
15 Feb 2013 5:54PM
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I rekon a good way to get info on a board, paddle etc, is to have chat whilst at the beach. Met some great people this way and made a few close friends along the way also. Its a nice way to pend time in the water waiting for the sets to come.
Have a good Friday all

surf4fun
WA, 1313 posts
15 Feb 2013 3:29PM
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tassiesup said...


we mostly ride a wide variety of all the latest boards on the market - we have very good relationships with local and interstate retailers and we get absolutely nothing from them other than excellent service (usually)


So if theres anything you wanna know or want us to find out for you drop us a line or post your thoughts and questions.


Do you think that these local and interstate retailers don't have an agenda?

I think going to your local shop knowing that they might have an agenda is better than getting second hand advice. These people are professionals and are going to give you as much information as possible to sell you a board. It is then up to you as a customer to ask the questions and realise where they are coming from.

No different going to a number of differnt shops than asking a bunch of your mates except the shops are more informed. Anyone who posts on seabreeze about their new board always says it is the best they have ever been on, which leads to bias. At least a shop will (or should) show you a number of boards from the brands they carry and give you the pros and cons of each. Then up to you to decide.

JustCruising
74 posts
15 Feb 2013 5:25PM
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Hi tassie sup

Can't help but think it was my recent post about my new Coreban Edge that kicked you off. You would be correct that I am bias towards my new board or I wouldn't have brought it, that much is obvious. We are all intelligent people and any reveiw is only going to reflect the bias of the reviewer weather the are affiliated to brand or not. You to will be bias towards your own preferences.

As a newbie I have searched through these forums endlessly reading reviews and gained much information that has led to a much better purchase for me. Gopro footage etc is just fun to watch. The motivation for posting my reveiw was simply to give a little back to the community out there in the hope it might help someone else.

For the record I work for an electronics manufacturer and my wife owns an optometry practice so there was no financial interest in my reveiw. Just stoked with my new board and wanted to share it.

Your heart is clearly in the right place but your comments about chest beating race board owners are divisive. I would rather encourage more reviews as they are great starting points and as I said in my post follow up with demos to form your own opinion as this matters more than any reveiw.

HumanCartoon
VIC, 2098 posts
15 Feb 2013 10:08PM
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Personally, I don't mind posts from industry-connected guys...saves me from having to go look for a lot of stuff. As an adult with a modest education I like to think I can discern the sh1te from the sh1nola.

hilly
WA, 8011 posts
15 Feb 2013 7:27PM
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HumanCartoon said...
Personally, I don't mind posts from industry-connected guys...saves me from having to go look for a lot of stuff. As an adult with a modest education I like to think I can discern the sh1te from the sh1nola.






Not sure the mexicans can

tassiesup
TAS, 477 posts
16 Feb 2013 9:07AM
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Tassiesup apologises for the "chest beating" comment and wishes to say that this comment was purely the personal opinion of one of the committee and not the general opinion of tassiesup as a whole. Everything else as posted stands as stated and we make no apologies for questioning the intentions or ethics of some of the posts/posters on this site.
Yes - some of us have had small discounts on boards as we have to source 95% of them from the mainland and as such we do everything possible to get good prices because the freight kills us. To my knowledge though nobody is currently riding boards that theyve been asked to pimp/promote etc. This however hasnt always been the case - even in recent times wholesalers/ retailers have offered up very cheap boards in return for promotion/reviews/pics and the like - to the best of my knowledge these requests have always been knocked back.
We are more than happy to be open and honest about our boards - good and bad - about time for some real tranparency so people can make decisions based on all the facts and not just the spin.

hilly
WA, 8011 posts
16 Feb 2013 8:23AM
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Mate I think you are dreaming of the 50's.

Vast majority of people on here are like minded wind, surf or sup stoked. They talk up their purchases as they believe they made a great choice. Does not mean it is the best choice for everybody.

I find it a bit weird you come on here and slag off everyone as pimps. Why not start your own pure site with only 'honest' reviewers. Like the Ke nalu board showcase back in the day.

skebstebamal
QLD, 579 posts
16 Feb 2013 10:42AM
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sponsored dudes comments are still worth hearing.... i for one wouldnt ride a board that was rubbish even if it was free!

Personally i liked the chest beating comment. thats some funny sh$te.

tassiesup
TAS, 477 posts
16 Feb 2013 12:20PM
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We are not saying if you get a new board you shouldn't get on here and talk it up, what we would like you to disclose is if you have been given a good deal on the condition that you get on here and talk it up.
And then you see he post " has anyone seen one of these" by some no name and 1 comes back and tells us how great they are.

hilly
WA, 8011 posts
16 Feb 2013 9:39AM
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tassiesup said...

And then you see he post " has anyone seen one of these" by some no name and 1 comes back and tells us how great they are.


discern the sh1te from the sh1nola

Th0m0
QLD, 529 posts
16 Feb 2013 5:33PM
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This whole thread smells like a pimp for Tassie Sup

GizzieNZ
4103 posts
16 Feb 2013 4:00PM
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tassiesup said...

It has come to our attention that there seems to be way too much industry driven threads and biaised advise given on the site and obviously some people arent happy about it - and its also apparent that many dont give a rats either.
For anyone out there interested in reviews and advise from non- pros who dont "rip" and dont get off on posting endless gopro footage of themselves and have absolutely zero industry/brand/shaper affiliation then feel free to PM or post to us at tassiesup and ask all the dumb questions and board advice you want.
We aren't australias best sup'ers but we are all competant surfers and paddlers - we mostly ride a wide variety of all the latest boards on the market - we have very good relationships with local and interstate retailers and we get absolutely nothing from them other than excellent service (usually)
We all surf and paddle in different places on a variety of different sups and we constantly share our boards and our thoughts and experiances with each other.
We also mostly all have mates/ girlfriends/wives/ kids etc who are just geting into sup so we can really relate to the needs of the new sup'ers and those paddling with, and teaching them.
We get literally dozens of emails each week asking for board advice and from people just wanting to talk shlt - we just love it and love sharing our love for it.

So if theres anything you wanna know or want us to find out for you drop us a line or post your thoughts and questions.


I think the good thing about a forum like seabreeze is there is a wide variety of opinions & ideas from a wide variety of people.
Isn't it a somewhat blinkered approach to say "come to us we know best"
Where are the checks & balances & broad range of opinions in such a closeted situation.
Seems like you almost become the people you wish to oppose

tassiesup
TAS, 477 posts
16 Feb 2013 7:36PM
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GizzieNZ said...
tassiesup said...

It has come to our attention that there seems to be way too much industry driven threads and biaised advise given on the site and obviously some people arent happy about it - and its also apparent that many dont give a rats either.
For anyone out there interested in reviews and advise from non- pros who dont "rip" and dont get off on posting endless gopro footage of themselves and have absolutely zero industry/brand/shaper affiliation then feel free to PM or post to us at tassiesup and ask all the dumb questions and board advice you want.
We aren't australias best sup'ers but we are all competant surfers and paddlers - we mostly ride a wide variety of all the latest boards on the market - we have very good relationships with local and interstate retailers and we get absolutely nothing from them other than excellent service (usually)
We all surf and paddle in different places on a variety of different sups and we constantly share our boards and our thoughts and experiances with each other.
We also mostly all have mates/ girlfriends/wives/ kids etc who are just geting into sup so we can really relate to the needs of the new sup'ers and those paddling with, and teaching them.
We get literally dozens of emails each week asking for board advice and from people just wanting to talk shlt - we just love it and love sharing our love for it.

So if theres anything you wanna know or want us to find out for you drop us a line or post your thoughts and questions.


I think the good thing about a forum like seabreeze is there is a wide variety of opinions & ideas from a wide variety of people.
Isn't it a somewhat blinkered approach to say "come to us we know best"
Where are the checks & balances & broad range of opinions in such a closeted situation.
Seems like you almost become the people you wish to oppose


Where does it say " we know best" ?
Many people ask us for advice and we give it in good faith and without any favouritism towards retailers or brands - people seem to appreciate our advice and guidance - if you dont want it then dont ask for it - we have a very friendly and committed group of sup'ers down here and we are immensely proud of how the sport has grown and how close and helpful our little sup community is.

laceys lane
QLD, 19804 posts
16 Feb 2013 6:57PM
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if i like a board i'll put something up and maybe the retailer likes. with my reputation, maybe they don't.


if i don't like a board i've tested i don't say anything.

i have bought boards and gear from all the local shops and shapers, but at the end of the day i'm my own man- warts and all


ps. i've found the local retailers give honest advice on the boards they sell and 9 times out of ten they are on the money.

i think the buyer owes it to themselves to be honest with what they want and their ability.

gumballs
NSW, 408 posts
16 Feb 2013 9:45PM
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tassiesup said...
GizzieNZ said...
tassiesup said...

It has come to our attention that there seems to be way too much industry driven threads and biaised advise given on the site and obviously some people arent happy about it - and its also apparent that many dont give a rats either.
For anyone out there interested in reviews and advise from non- pros who dont "rip" and dont get off on posting endless gopro footage of themselves and have absolutely zero industry/brand/shaper affiliation then feel free to PM or post to us at tassiesup and ask all the dumb questions and board advice you want.
We aren't australias best sup'ers but we are all competant surfers and paddlers - we mostly ride a wide variety of all the latest boards on the market - we have very good relationships with local and interstate retailers and we get absolutely nothing from them other than excellent service (usually)
We all surf and paddle in different places on a variety of different sups and we constantly share our boards and our thoughts and experiances with each other.
We also mostly all have mates/ girlfriends/wives/ kids etc who are just geting into sup so we can really relate to the needs of the new sup'ers and those paddling with, and teaching them.
We get literally dozens of emails each week asking for board advice and from people just wanting to talk shlt - we just love it and love sharing our love for it.

So if theres anything you wanna know or want us to find out for you drop us a line or post your thoughts and questions.


I think the good thing about a forum like seabreeze is there is a wide variety of opinions & ideas from a wide variety of people.
Isn't it a somewhat blinkered approach to say "come to us we know best"
Where are the checks & balances & broad range of opinions in such a closeted situation.
Seems like you almost become the people you wish to oppose


Where does it say " we know best" ?
Many people ask us for advice and we give it in good faith and without any favouritism towards retailers or brands - people seem to appreciate our advice and guidance - if you dont want it then dont ask for it - we have a very friendly and committed group of sup'ers down here and we are immensely proud of how the sport has grown and how close and helpful our little sup community is.



You haven't by any chance started your own religion recently have you?

Goochi
WA, 846 posts
16 Feb 2013 9:52PM
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You haven't by any chance started your own religion recently have you?


Classic! ...I was thinking the exact same thing.

TassieSUP I'm not sure if I get why you posted this on a popular SUP forum? You seem to be saying you're right and the whole concept of the forum is wrong and your club is the answer....our salvation from the evil of bias reviews.

It's an entertaining read though

aus301
QLD, 2039 posts
17 Feb 2013 11:36AM
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Offing any lessons or advice on forum fishing?

Snowie
NSW, 149 posts
18 Feb 2013 5:04PM
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I want to know what Tassiesup's position is on the post-race sausage sizzle before I pick a side. I'm a bit suss that he hasn't mentioned it yet.

I think we've got it pretty good with the retailers in Sydney:
- they want to fit you to the right board
- they're supporting demo days
- they're holding trials and races
- they're out paddling in their local area and giving advice and lessons

In short, they want the buyer to come back when they're ready for their next toy (and we do like new toys eh?).

I have no affiliations other than club ones btw. I just trawl the net for sup-related gear way more than is healthy....I knew I had a problem when I started going to this site and running the comments through google translator www.standup-guide.fr/compare?404-14

tassiesup
TAS, 477 posts
18 Feb 2013 7:24PM
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Snowie said...
I want to know what Tassiesup's position is on the post-race sausage sizzle before I pick a side. I'm a bit suss that he hasn't mentioned it yet.

Glad you raised that Snowie, Tassiesup have always supplied the sausages and beer at their events, the only thing that we do insist on is that if you drink our beer you must use one of our complementary stubbie holders and for the record Tassiesup is not just a he, being such a large organisation it takes many more than one person to keep it going.






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