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2016 Sunova Speeed 7'6 - 80L vs. 70kgs

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Created by Portstretch > 9 months ago, 30 Sep 2016
Portstretch
VIC, 33 posts
30 Sep 2016 2:43PM
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Hello, I really like the look of this board but don't know if I'm biting off more than I can chew with the smaller size. I currently ride a 10'6 Nalu, which I will never sell, and am looking for another board to compliment it. I've watched SUPthecreek's vids, which are ace by the way, and love the timber look of the sunova. How difficult will it be to balance on this board?

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2131 posts
30 Sep 2016 3:01PM
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Very difficult if you ask me. Given the weight of the board, plus your weight, that board will barely float. If you are a young Cirque du Soleil performer then you might be OK. But it coming from a 10'6 Nalu it will be chalk and cheese.

Wicksy
QLD, 153 posts
30 Sep 2016 3:56PM
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Portstretch said..
How difficult will it be to balance on this board?


How good are you?

I'm a 78kg intermediate, and I really struggled on the 8'2 in all but perfect conditions. Think the 8'5 will be my perfect size.
I also used to ride a 10'6 Nalu. Now ride a 10x29 Style. Considering dropping to the 9'6 Style.

By comparison, the Nalu was a boat!

exiled
366 posts
30 Sep 2016 2:30PM
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You would be going from 160L to 80L, and dropping 3 feet off of your board, as well as 4.5 inches of width. I find the speeed stable for it's size, but the size difference here is huge. Its not impossible, but you are potentially looking a lot of work. The Speeed comes in so many sizes, why not just bump up to a 7'8 or 7'11? I've found that stability starts to decrease exponentially as you get close to neutral buoyancy with your board, so adding just a few more liters will make things a while lot easier.

colas
5159 posts
30 Sep 2016 2:48PM
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Portstretch said..
How difficult will it be to balance on this board?




This will be reserved to experts. + 10 liters means that the board will practically sink under the total weight of you + board +paddle + wetsuit + fins... add to this the 24" width and you have the recipe for hell on water coming from a 10'6". And this only for balance, then the really hard part will be to catch waves, you wont believe as slow a submerged board paddles...

It will be impossible, because your wave count will drop so much your progresses will be put to a halt. Envision takeing one hundred times less waves than now, and thus progressing 100 times slower.

Granted, a wide nosed board like the speed will be much stabler at low volume than a pointed nose, but you should come down in size more gradually. The 7'11" seems a better choice.

I have just advised a 57kg gal in hossegor with 3 years of experience that went from a 9'0" to a 95l 7'4" x 28 3/4", something not extreme ( www.gong-galaxy.com/magazine/pics/1-hour-4-boards/ ) but ended up totally frustrated with it. This should be an easy board for her, but not coming directly from a 9', I recommended her to go through a 7'8" 100l x 29"1/8 first.


Portstretch
VIC, 33 posts
30 Sep 2016 5:40PM
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Well from the looks of things I will be better suited to a gradual drop in length. I might look for something around the 9' range. Cheers to all for your great responses.

dirtburp
QLD, 19 posts
30 Sep 2016 9:20PM
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8'10 speeed ...no smaller...

supthecreek
2676 posts
30 Sep 2016 8:54PM
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Portstretch

colas is exactly right, you would be at 1 to 1 in "weight to volume"

ha ha... just for giggles, I jumped on an 8'5 Speeed the other day in glassy, flat water.

It is just under 1 to 1 at my weight + board

No way I could have gotten up, from the board.... I just stepped on from shallow water.

Surprisingly, after paddling it a few hundred yards, I could stand on it when still.... but it totally sank

I was pretty stoked to be on a board that narrow!

Pics, or it didn't happen....















nicoo
VIC, 86 posts
1 Oct 2016 12:54PM
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Great pics love the third image, walking on water with just a walking stick.! Lol. ?? ??.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2131 posts
1 Oct 2016 10:08PM
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STC, if that board was any smaller you'd need a snorkel!

Smash1
NSW, 826 posts
2 Oct 2016 4:13PM
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STC - is there actually a board under your feet or can you walk on water

Traff
SA, 118 posts
2 Oct 2016 5:29PM
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Hi Portstrech. I'm exactly the same weight as you and have had a Sunova acid 7'10" 81 ltr board for about 3 months. I am an advanced rider and was coming down from a 105 litre Gulliver Vbox. When I first got it, it was realllly hard to balance on. I'm ok now but at first I thought I had bitten off more than I could chew but perseverance has paid off and the board is amazing to surf. But Colas is on the money with his comments. If you try and go too small to quickly you will regret it. Personally (and I say this without knowing your abilities) I think your wave count will drop to zero because you wont be able to stand on it to paddle. If your really keen to go small on the speeed I wouldn't go less than the 7'11". Good luck!!

colas
5159 posts
2 Oct 2016 5:13PM
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Some more food for thought:

At 97kg I am able to surf a 84 liters board ( a 7'10" x 27.5" Imagine Impact I tried once in June), I could only stand up and take off in the following 10 seconds, otherwise I would fall as the needed concentration was too intense. And I was doing nothing special on the wave, as I was to mentally exhausted after managing the take off. And it was glassy.

Although I SUP often on a 105 liters "Tomo" shape (wide everywhere, 5th from left below), I got a traditional performance shape in 115 liters 7'4"x28" (4th from left below) was hell for me. So after 3 sessions with it, I was not really enjoying missing waves by falling on takeoff (although performance on hollow waves was stellar), and was feeling that I was not progressing enough in the result, so I surfed my other SUPs for 2 months, all 125 liters except for the Tomo. And I am sure the difficulty was more in the 28" width than the volume.

I was then totally surprised when re-trying the 115 liters to find it "easy"! the sessions (3 per week) on my other ~125 SUPs have made me progress enough to train me efficiently for the 115 liters! So going down progressively in size is VERY productive, by being confortable on a board size you actually train a lot for the smaller size... you are definitely not "wasting your time"! On the opposite, would I have had only the 115l in my quiver, I would have been less eager to get out with it in imperfect conditions, surfed less, and progress slower.


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