I seen a few videos with the new thicker wider Naish aluminum mast.

Has anyone tried it yet?

It's looks like it fits older foils all mast being interchangeable.

It's said to be available but I haven't found the price yet.

If anyone has any info...

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Fishdude said..
I seen a few videos with the new thicker wider Naish aluminum mast.

Has anyone tried it yet?

It's looks like it fits older foils all mast being interchangeable.

It's said to be available but I haven't found the price yet.

If anyone has any info...

It is not officially launched yet, but yer there is a new Naish Mast. It is lighter, stiffer and stronger than the previous. The mast is a little more expensive as it has the mount permanently connected. There is limited stock with dealers already, so head in and have a look.

Yes, the new mast is fully interchangeable with all existing Naish Fuselages.

A very exciting time for alloy foils. Launch is soon and more will be revealed then.

Ride safe.

JB

Lighter.. stiffer and stronger.. Nice..

Thanks JB.
That explains why i can't find a price on it.
The design looks really good, hard to imagine it's lighter also.

Can somebody confirm that Naish masts fit the Gong Allvator fuselage?
I have read somewhere that they do but i cannot find it.

I was lucky enough to get the new Naish S25 1800HA complete. The whole rig is quite a bit lighter. 2 pounds lighter than my 2020 Naish rig. This puts it only 1.2 pounds heavier than my buddies GOFoil. So I'm pretty stoked.
The new HA 1800 is a joy. I've compared it to both my 1650 and 2000 using the same wind and wing setups. The HA takes a few more pumps to come up than the ultra high lift 2000. But it's close. It's bizarre but in light conditions it's faster from 0-4 knots trolling than the 2000, but the 2000 seems more likely to jump up from 4-6kts. Just an observation. Glide goes to the 1800, it's a downwind machine, it def keeps its speed easier. Low end glide till plop down goes to the 2000. Turning, I give to the 2000, but the 1800 is no stick in the mud. Pumping hands down goes to the 1800.
In addition, if you're in some bigger chop or swell on a downwinder, I've yet to breach on the 1800, the 2000 I'll keep for groin high or less.
I feel like the 1650 comes up almost as early as the 1800 and 1 knot less than the 2000. I will say that the 1650 is a banking and turning machine. The thin 1800HA is still faster.
As for the mast....it's really nice w just a tad more upwind ability. I hope they eventually come out w a lighter longer version windsurf fuselage. The windsurf fuselage is a monster going upwind. You loose some pumping ability but it depends on your game plan that day.
Overall, I don't think they can get the wings any lighter, as well as the AL mast. The only component that could shed some weight would be the fuselages. Not sure you can do it w AL.
I'll probably be getting the 1400 HA for bigger waves and higher winds. My height 6'2", weight 80 kilos. Hope that helps.

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Shlogger said..
I was lucky enough to get the new Naish S25 1800HA complete. The whole rig is quite a bit lighter. 2 pounds lighter than my 2020 Naish rig. This puts it only 1.2 pounds heavier than my buddies GOFoil. So I'm pretty stoked.
The new HA 1800 is a joy. I've compared it to both my 1650 and 2000 using the same wind and wing setups. The HA takes a few more pumps to come up than the ultra high lift 2000. But it's close. It's bizarre but in light conditions it's faster from 0-4 knots trolling than the 2000, but the 2000 seems more likely to jump up from 4-6kts. Just an observation. Glide goes to the 1800, it's a downwind machine, it def keeps its speed easier. Low end glide till plop down goes to the 2000. Turning, I give to the 2000, but the 1800 is no stick in the mud. Pumping hands down goes to the 1800.
In addition, if you're in some bigger chop or swell on a downwinder, I've yet to breach on the 1800, the 2000 I'll keep for groin high or less.
I feel like the 1650 comes up almost as early as the 1800 and 1 knot less than the 2000. I will say that the 1650 is a banking and turning machine. The thin 1800HA is still faster.
As for the mast....it's really nice w just a tad more upwind ability. I hope they eventually come out w a lighter longer version windsurf fuselage. The windsurf fuselage is a monster going upwind. You loose some pumping ability but it depends on your game plan that day.
Overall, I don't think they can get the wings any lighter, as well as the AL mast. The only component that could shed some weight would be the fuselages. Not sure you can do it w AL.
I'll probably be getting the 1400 HA for bigger waves and higher winds. My height 6'2", weight 80 kilos. Hope that helps.

I've got the same 3 wings and found very similar results. The S25 is a vast improvement all round.

I'd be interested to know how the 1400 ha turns and behaves compared to the 1650 winging on smallish type swells .thoughts anyone

I love my HA 1800 and at 6'4" and 220lbs (100kgs) it's the perfect foil for me.. Good easy lift and a very slippery low drag feel that lets it just go faster and faster and it's soooo smooth.. I recently bought the HA 1400 and was worried that at my weight (and foil skills) it might not work very well and I would need strong winds and it would not let me foil ay low speeds but I was pleasantly surprised.. It's awesome.. I think on very light wind days I'll continue to use the big 1800 but once the wind is of medium strength or stronger I'll be using the new 1400.. Also the new lighter/stronger/stiffer masts are also awesome.

A few years ago the Naish foils were regarded as an entry level foil and lacked the performance of some of the big foil brands but each year they have made leaps and bounds in performance so that now they are right up there with the best foils out there.. IMO.

anyone could take a pic on the bottom of the mast, is it one piece or two piece ie. is the very bottom part (silver/metal colored) to the fuselage removable, please?

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omg said..
anyone could take a pic on the bottom of the mast, is it one piece or two piece ie. is the very bottom part (silver/metal colored) to the fuselage removable, please?

It's one piece.. The mast is bonded to the base plate and also bonded to the piece that mounts to the fuselage.. There is also an abracadabra version.

Second shot is fuselage foil Mount bolt holes with stainless inserts

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DavidJohn said..
I love my HA 1800 and at 6'4" and 220lbs (100kgs) it's the perfect foil for me.. Good easy lift and a very slippery low drag feel that lets it just go faster and faster and it's soooo smooth.. I recently bought the HA 1400 and was worried that at my weight (and foil skills) it might not work very well and I would need strong winds and it would not let me foil ay low speeds but I was pleasantly surprised.. It's awesome.. I think on very light wind days I'll continue to use the big 1800 but once the wind is of medium strength or stronger I'll be using the new 1400.. Also the new lighter/stronger/stiffer masts are also awesome.

A few years ago the Naish foils were regarded as an entry level foil and lacked the performance of some of the big foil brands but each year they have made leaps and bounds in performance so that now they are right up there with the best foils out there.. IMO.

Thanks DJ , I'm similar size.
Might be next investment

Thanks maxa! Looks really nice.