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paul.j
paul.j

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7 Mar 2020 7:27pm
12 towers results
1) James Casey gofoil custom/ Sunova
2) Beau OBrien Takuma 1600/custom DC NSP
4) Paul Jackson Takuma 1300/ ONE foils board
5) Guy (1st wing ding) Axis/ Sunova
6) Steve Walker Takuma 1900/ONE foil board
7) Mark Renny Axis 101( I think) DC
8) Dylan Constable gofoil 200 DC
9) Ash Wooly (2nd wing ding) Unifoil/
10) John Hagen Axis/ Sunoca
11) Dale Chapman custom wing/DC
12) Ty Judson custom wing/ custom NSP
13) Lee McLean Takuma 1900/ONE
14) Rob Pirie (3rd wing ding) Takuma 1600/Fanatic
DNF Chris Parker
DNF Keale Dorries
DNF Alison Fulligar
DNF Michael Brown (wing ding)
Savannah Fitzsimmons (wing sup)
frenchfoiler
frenchfoiler

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7 Mar 2020 6:42pm
How was the condition ?
tarquin1
tarquin1

954 posts

7 Mar 2020 8:11pm
What was the distance and times? Any idea of speeds they were doing?
frenchfoiler
frenchfoiler

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7 Mar 2020 8:19pm
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tarquin1 said..
What was the distance and times? Any idea of speeds they were doing?


James Casey FB :

Stoked to be apart of the stoked out crew that flew down the coast from Currumbin to Narrowneck, 17.5km in 43:36 ?? Cranking conditions, gusting around 25 knots, with a fun shorey to negotiate at the finish ??
PeterP
PeterP

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8 Mar 2020 1:13pm
24km/h - impressive!
paul.j
paul.j

QLD

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9 Mar 2020 9:02am
As James said on his facebook it was about 25 knots with a bit of a mixed swell so not perfect, James was on a proto GF wing and in these conditions he foresure had more speed than anyone else. It was a super fun run and a really good start to making the foil race side a more major part of the event next year.
Windgenuity
Windgenuity

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9 Mar 2020 12:51pm
Bummed we missed it, especially to see the Wing's got a run. Had we of known would have come up with a solid crew.

Well done Jimmy, as always smoking.

Keen to see some other times and paths.

JB
Piros
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9 Mar 2020 3:43pm
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frenchfoiler said..
How was the condition ?





Pretty tough on the wings with wind hitting 30 knots at stages , made it super hard to surf the deep confused troughs with the wing still in front of you , you could not tow it or neutralise it , just too much wind speed pushing the wing back in front of you , it always stay powered in some form .Lead to some enormous crashes still heaps of fun though.
frenchfoiler
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9 Mar 2020 5:25pm
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paul.j said..
As James said on his facebook it was about 25 knots with a bit of a mixed swell so not perfect, James was on a proto GF wing and in these conditions he foresure had more speed than anyone else. It was a super fun run and a really good start to making the foil race side a more major part of the event next year.


Intresting to see many different sizes wing such as Beau with 1600 LOL and you with 1300 LOL.

James on a prototype GL Gofoil ? Thinner maybe ?

I don't see the timing ?
paul.j
paul.j

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9 Mar 2020 7:40pm
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frenchfoiler said..

paul.j said..
As James said on his facebook it was about 25 knots with a bit of a mixed swell so not perfect, James was on a proto GF wing and in these conditions he foresure had more speed than anyone else. It was a super fun run and a really good start to making the foil race side a more major part of the event next year.



Intresting to see many different sizes wing such as Beau with 1600 LOL and you with 1300 LOL.

James on a prototype GL Gofoil ? Thinner maybe ?

I don't see the timing ?


No real timing was done as it was more a big get together with a fun semi race but mostly just a run to help build the foil stoke.
I averaged about 22km per hour with a slow start( James stole my bump??) and one crash, beau would have been around 22.5km per hour.
I felt a little under winged and still really not sure that for DW the 1300 is any better than the 1600.

I can't say to much on James wing as I am sure they want to keep it under wraps for now as they are more than likely still working on it but it looked pretty good and I think he was just playing with us a bit but time will tell I guess.
Piros
Piros

QLD

7251 posts

10 Mar 2020 10:01am
Crossing the line at the Foil Muster , doing the claim after escaping death through the hell shore break. Fanatic 6-7 . Duotone 4m & Takuma 1600.
Epic photo by :- Georgia Schofeild @georgiasphoto

JB
JB

JB

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10 Mar 2020 11:15am
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Piros said..

frenchfoiler said..
How was the condition ?






Pretty tough on the wings with wind hitting 30 knots at stages , made it super hard to surf the deep confused troughs with the wing still in front of you , you could not tow it or neutralise it , just too much wind speed pushing the wing back in front of you , it always stay powered in some form .Lead to some enormous crashes still heaps of fun though.


Sounds like it would have been ideal for the 3.6m Wing-Surfer. I have played with this wing in 25kn and it has a really cool ability to go deep but stay on a vertical plane. Make downwinding even faster and deeper than ever. Obviously you want to free-wing and swell ride when you can, but with the 3.6m you're actually smoking past swells and bumps as full speed, it's a major mind strain as you have to be thinking really fast. Last good DW run I did on it was probs somewhere around 160-170 off and sheeted. Funny thing is the bigger wings don't seem to do this the same or as aggressive. I would imagine the 2.8m being even better.

So keen to get back out DW.

JB
PeterP
PeterP

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10 Mar 2020 12:34pm
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Piros said..

frenchfoiler said..
How was the condition ?






Pretty tough on the wings with wind hitting 30 knots at stages , made it super hard to surf the deep confused troughs with the wing still in front of you , you could not tow it or neutralise it , just too much wind speed pushing the wing back in front of you , it always stay powered in some form .Lead to some enormous crashes still heaps of fun though.


I've found that more wind is better for wing downwind (Unfortunately so, as I had hoped to be able to use the wing in lighter downwinds where our bumps are much smaller and staying up on a bump with paddle is much harder).

If it's not blowing 20-30kn then going straight downwind is quite hard as the bumps are too small to generate enough speed to keep the wing flying flagged out which leads to too much yachting.

Having said that, some wings are much better at these strong wind downwinds than others.....based on pic you were using one of the others
Windgenuity
Windgenuity

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10 Mar 2020 4:06pm
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PeterP said..

Piros said..


frenchfoiler said..
How was the condition ?







Pretty tough on the wings with wind hitting 30 knots at stages , made it super hard to surf the deep confused troughs with the wing still in front of you , you could not tow it or neutralise it , just too much wind speed pushing the wing back in front of you , it always stay powered in some form .Lead to some enormous crashes still heaps of fun though.



I've found that more wind is better for wing downwind (Unfortunately so, as I had hoped to be able to use the wing in lighter downwinds where our bumps are much smaller and staying up on a bump with paddle is much harder).

If it's not blowing 20-30kn then going straight downwind is quite hard as the bumps are too small to generate enough speed to keep the wing flying flagged out which leads to too much yachting.

Having said that, some wings are much better at these strong wind downwinds than others.....based on pic you were using one of the others


Agreed DW is more fun in 20-30kn, but you can most definitely DW Wing in less. 15kn is gold. I would take a Wing DW over Paddle in light conditions any day. Both will be work, but the Wing will be faster and have more ability to hunt down some fun bumps. DW Winging is not as easy as many people think it would be. Whilst it is not as physically hard as paddle DW'ing, there is definitely still a lot to learn to DW effectively especially in lighter conditions. Learning apparent wind and getting comfortable with angles is key.
PeterP
PeterP

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10 Mar 2020 2:04pm
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Windgenuity said..

PeterP said..


Piros said..



frenchfoiler said..
How was the condition ?








Pretty tough on the wings with wind hitting 30 knots at stages , made it super hard to surf the deep confused troughs with the wing still in front of you , you could not tow it or neutralise it , just too much wind speed pushing the wing back in front of you , it always stay powered in some form .Lead to some enormous crashes still heaps of fun though.




I've found that more wind is better for wing downwind (Unfortunately so, as I had hoped to be able to use the wing in lighter downwinds where our bumps are much smaller and staying up on a bump with paddle is much harder).

If it's not blowing 20-30kn then going straight downwind is quite hard as the bumps are too small to generate enough speed to keep the wing flying flagged out which leads to too much yachting.

Having said that, some wings are much better at these strong wind downwinds than others.....based on pic you were using one of the others



Agreed DW is more fun in 20-30kn, but you can most definitely DW Wing in less. 15kn is gold. I would take a Wing DW over Paddle in light conditions any day. Both will be work, but the Wing will be faster and have more ability to hunt down some fun bumps. DW Winging is not as easy as many people think it would be. Whilst it is not as physically hard as paddle DW'ing, there is definitely still a lot to learn to DW effectively especially in lighter conditions. Learning apparent wind and getting comfortable with angles is key.


I think the problem we have is that our dwd run is a no-fetch dwd run - so the bumps only build up as you go down the course and if it's not over 20kn there really isn't much. If you have open fetch like Maliko I'm sure you can go in less wind and use the apparent wind - just haven't tried it yet.
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