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What's your thoughts on this one

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Created by Isbjorn > 9 months ago, 21 Feb 2020
Isbjorn
36 posts
21 Feb 2020 4:44PM
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https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1974-compass-yachts-28/OAG-AD-16152032/

I've been looking at Tophats and this one which the price was just dropped

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Lazzz
NSW, 891 posts
21 Feb 2020 8:49PM
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Isbjorn
36 posts
21 Feb 2020 6:19PM
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I should add that I want to learn to sail in my early 50's. No experience sailing.


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Yara
NSW, 1290 posts
21 Feb 2020 11:19PM
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Lots of C28s around with the 8hp Yanmar. Old engine and really not enough power if you want to sail offshore.

garymalmgren
1239 posts
21 Feb 2020 8:29PM
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OK here we go.
The ad is short on what (essential) extras come with the boat.
These are what add to the original purchase price.
This is called an inventory.
An autopilot is mentioned = good $500 or $600 saved there.
EPIRB = $200.
Anchor, chain and rode? Looks like a bruce anchor with a windlass, if so ,anchor adequate, windlass a plus
Quality of lines? haliyards, sheets etc.
Sails look a bit tired.
YSE 8 is a small engine for a 28 footer. I have a 24 footer with a YSE 12.
Engine could be tired but for $1000 can be almost renewed.
Solar panels= good. Batteries ?
Timber interior looks nice.
Cushions and fit out is what you would expect.
haliyard is tied off to mast so not led back to cockpit (easily fixed)
Spin pole, Is there a spinnaker?
Price is not unreasonable.
Time to go and have a look, (With eyes WIDE open) and wallet closed


Maybe, arrange a test sail and negotiate with owner to give you some lessons if purchased (don't expect that for free)
gary

garymalmgren
1239 posts
21 Feb 2020 8:38PM
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Hi Yara
I disagree about the yanmar.
If you are sailing offshore the size of the engine should not matter.
Inshore is where it counts.



Gary

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
22 Feb 2020 6:57AM
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garymalmgren said..
Hi Yara
I disagree about the yanmar.
If you are sailing offshore the size of the engine should not matter.
Inshore is where it counts.


Gary


Keep those video's coming

Ramona
NSW, 7653 posts
22 Feb 2020 8:16AM
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Isbjorn said..
https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1974-compass-yachts-28/OAG-AD-16152032/

I've been looking at Tophats and this one which the price was just dropped

Bear


That looks like a Northerner 28. Same as a Compass 28 but with timber furniture. Seems like good value but who knows what is good value these days. YSE8 engine has a small tank and that is all it needs to motor on and off moorings. Sails look tired but that is probably why this vessel is cheap. Plenty of secondhand sails about to suit. Good starter boat.

Enigma1
NSW, 172 posts
22 Feb 2020 8:55AM
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Have a look at this boat as a comparison;

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/compass-28/230177

I suspect this may be a better buy, even though they are asking $3k more. The price was a fair bit higher when first listed (I think it was $18k) and just recently dropped to $12k.

Looks like it is well maintained by an elderly gentleman into sailing.

Ramona
NSW, 7653 posts
22 Feb 2020 9:11AM
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Reef Knot said..
Have a look at this boat as a comparison;

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/compass-28/230177

I suspect this may be a better buy, even though they are asking $3k more. The price was a fair bit higher when first listed (I think it was $18k) and just recently dropped to $12k.

Looks like it is well maintained by an elderly gentleman into sailing.


Much better sails and self tailing winches!

Yara
NSW, 1290 posts
22 Feb 2020 1:22PM
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garymalmgren said..
Hi Yara
I disagree about the yanmar.
If you are sailing offshore the size of the engine should not matter.
Inshore is where it counts.


Gary



Yes, OK, slack terminology. By offshore I mean on the ocean, rather than an estuary like Port Jackson. As far as I am concerned if you poke past the Heads you are offshore. A lot of C 28 owners have commented about the inadequacy of the 8hp. Particularly if you have a less than clean bottom and prop.

TKNick
NSW, 123 posts
22 Feb 2020 4:32PM
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The Yse 8 is too small for the Compass 28. The one I used to own could barely make 3.5 knots on flat water.

Isbjorn
36 posts
22 Feb 2020 6:03PM
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Reef Knot said..
Have a look at this boat as a comparison;

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/compass-28/230177

I suspect this may be a better buy, even though they are asking $3k more. The price was a fair bit higher when first listed (I think it was $18k) and just recently dropped to $12k.

Looks like it is well maintained by an elderly gentleman into sailing.


The video is from 2015 in this ad. I have watched this several times and did not realize the boat was still for sale.

Yara
NSW, 1290 posts
23 Feb 2020 2:06PM
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Isbjorn said..

Reef Knot said..
Have a look at this boat as a comparison;

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/compass-28/230177

I suspect this may be a better buy, even though they are asking $3k more. The price was a fair bit higher when first listed (I think it was $18k) and just recently dropped to $12k.

Looks like it is well maintained by an elderly gentleman into sailing.



The video is from 2015 in this ad. I have watched this several times and did not realize the boat was still for sale.


Could be back for re-sale by the same broker, who seems to be a straight shooter and who's real profession is video creator.

Isbjorn
36 posts
23 Feb 2020 2:28PM
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I enquired but it is sold

All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
27 Feb 2020 9:27AM
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Yara said..

garymalmgren said..
Hi Yara
I disagree about the yanmar.
If you are sailing offshore the size of the engine should not matter.
Inshore is where it counts.


Gary




Yes, OK, slack terminology. By offshore I mean on the ocean, rather than an estuary like Port Jackson. As far as I am concerned if you poke past the Heads you are offshore. A lot of C 28 owners have commented about the inadequacy of the 8hp. Particularly if you have a less than clean bottom and prop.


The way I read Gary's comment, offshore SAILING doesn't require an engine... they're helpful in marinas though!

garymalmgren
1239 posts
27 Feb 2020 8:15AM
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Hi Yara and All at sea.

I will clarify what i meant by,
If you are sailing offshore the size of the engine should not matter.
Inshore is where it counts.

Inshore -
crossing a bar.
trying to make headway against wind and tide/river current.
maneuvering around moored boats or other inshore obstacles.
getting out of the way of a (large oncoming vessel, think SH ferry)
in a marina.

And many more situations where sailing would be a nightmare with out an engine.

Nothing like hearing the donk fire up just when you need it.
Here is Kevin resetting his anchor without the aid of an engine. NO FUN at all.



Gary

Chris 249
NSW, 3425 posts
27 Feb 2020 8:22PM
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I agree with a lot of that, Gary, but with the right boat and handling it can be fun and rewarding to re-set an anchor under sail. It's also good practise - given the number of times a boat trying to recover a MOB ends up with a rope wrapped around the prop in the panic, the ability to do things like anchor under sail could well be a lifesaver, quite literally.



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