Yes saw that vid earler today, impressive tin can, will be awesome to see under sail.

also Black Pearl

Both of them obscenities.

Agreed Cisco. Monster is the word.

gary

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garymalmgren said..
Agreed Cisco. Monster is the word.

gary

Both brilliant examples of modern design imo
Obscenity was NZ ruining the America's Cup by exploiting the rules back in the late 80's
Now we have the most ridiculous sailing event in history , yawn, bring back the 12 meter

With a net worth of US$2.7 billion I guess Sam can afford to have another boat.

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Perry500 said..

garymalmgren said..
Agreed Cisco. Monster is the word.

gary

Both brilliant examples of modern design imo
Obscenity was NZ ruining the America's Cup by exploiting the rules back in the late 80's
Now we have the most ridiculous sailing event in history , yawn, bring back the 12 meter

On the contrary. These two boats are amazing examples of pure excess and greed. Build it bigger Because I'm rich and i can. No other reason. it disgusts me somewhat that the owner began the process of The second boat before he had the first.


the americas cup on the other hand has taken a turn for the better. Theyve built boats that draw the public eye, but remain similar enough to each other for the race to be about skill as well as design. The filming of the event has improved as well, with course overlays that allow the general public to understand what is going on. The americas cup has always had an element of development.

I think Sea Eagle is a beautiful looking yacht. I don't care for the look of Black Pearl, but from a tech point of view it is amazing. Something worthy of the solar panel thread

Something worthy of the solar panel thread

I like that Torph. considering all of those panels that we can see carefully placed on the deck, ( LOL)

No mention of engines or generators , but my guess they are a tad larger than my Yanmar.
So I guess jealousy is at play here. his is obviously bigger than mine.
gary

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garymalmgren said..
Something worthy of the solar panel thread

I like that Torph. considering all of those panels that we can see carefully placed on the deck, ( LOL)

No mention of engines or generators , but my guess they are a tad larger than my Yanmar.
So I guess jealousy is at play here. his is obviously bigger than mine.
gary

If your Yanmar is bigger than 715 hp then you win

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Subsonic said..

Perry500 said..

garymalmgren said..
Agreed Cisco. Monster is the word.

gary

Both brilliant examples of modern design imo
Obscenity was NZ ruining the America's Cup by exploiting the rules back in the late 80's
Now we have the most ridiculous sailing event in history , yawn, bring back the 12 meter

On the contrary. These two boats are amazing examples of pure excess and greed. Build it bigger Because I'm rich and i can. No other reason. it disgusts me somewhat that the owner began the process of The second boat before he had the first.


the americas cup on the other hand has taken a turn for the better. Theyve built boats that draw the public eye, but remain similar enough to each other for the race to be about skill as well as design. The filming of the event has improved as well, with course overlays that allow the general public to understand what is going on. The americas cup has always had an element of development.

I guess if your into straight line sailing and crew wearing bike helmets, modern AC is good then. Sailing superyachts and super yachts in general employ thousands of people to build them which filters down to the boats we all sail today. They are cutting edge development and we need these filthy rich players to keep spending ridiculous loads of money to support our industry.
White Rabbit was launched a few years ago now in WA, all local systems where implemented where possible , pumping hundreds of millions into Australian boat building. Bring it on I say

looks like a hat full of bottoms and about as practical, though who am i to judge he probably wouldn't like my boat either

Cannot see the point. It is just a small sailing ship.
Now, if the obscenely rich really want to make a point, I think there will be a few cruise liners coming onto the market soon for a song, and they can be modified by knocking out and amalgamating cabins. Can invite a select couple of hundred mates to come along for the cruise.
Just stop the engines and they will sail along with the windage of the "block of flats" topsides.

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Perry500 said..

Subsonic said..

Perry500 said..

garymalmgren said..
Agreed Cisco. Monster is the word.

gary

Both brilliant examples of modern design imo
Obscenity was NZ ruining the America's Cup by exploiting the rules back in the late 80's
Now we have the most ridiculous sailing event in history , yawn, bring back the 12 meter

On the contrary. These two boats are amazing examples of pure excess and greed. Build it bigger Because I'm rich and i can. No other reason. it disgusts me somewhat that the owner began the process of The second boat before he had the first.


the americas cup on the other hand has taken a turn for the better. Theyve built boats that draw the public eye, but remain similar enough to each other for the race to be about skill as well as design. The filming of the event has improved as well, with course overlays that allow the general public to understand what is going on. The americas cup has always had an element of development.

I guess if your into straight line sailing and crew wearing bike helmets, modern AC is good then. Sailing superyachts and super yachts in general employ thousands of people to build them which filters down to the boats we all sail today. They are cutting edge development and we need these filthy rich players to keep spending ridiculous loads of money to support our industry.
White Rabbit was launched a few years ago now in WA, all local systems where implemented where possible , pumping hundreds of millions into Australian boat building. Bring it on I say

White Rabbit is a motorboat or a ship not a yacht.

Certainly agree with $s into the Aust boat building industry and bring it on etc but it is nothing to do with this forum.

Obviously trust echomarinegroup and all their sub-contractors including designers are going well.

www.echomarinegroup.com/luxury/

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garymalmgren said..
Something worthy of the solar panel thread

I like that Torph. considering all of those panels that we can see carefully placed on the deck, ( LOL)

No mention of engines or generators , but my guess they are a tad larger than my Yanmar.
So I guess jealousy is at play here. his is obviously bigger than mine.
gary

the solar panels are built into the sails

I'm ambivalent about the merits of the mega-yachts. However, I don't see the point of touting "eco-friendly" features, such as solar panels and reverse-cycle-prop-generation on these yachts. Yes, they make a lot of sense on smaller yachts, such as the 30 to 50 ft sailing round the world passage-maker. And they make sense in terms of saving money. But those parameters seem quite meaningless on these mega-yachts. Neither has been built with money-saving in mind, and the eco-footprint of their construction probably monsters whatever savings accrue from the "eco-friendly" stuff. To me, it looks like tokenism.

I don't care for mega yachts either but at least they are spending their money! The industry is going to benefit and the money is being spread around. How honest this money is that's another story.

Yes the feudal system is still alive and well, obviously that is way beyond doubt................

the solar panels are built into the sails

So when the sails are rolled away......

I am not knocking the technology or job creation involved in the construction.
It is just a monster in my view. I am stunned that there seem to be so many of these monsters out there.

gary

What is it with Phallic symbols?

It's like elite sport. The argument in its favour goes that spending public money on athletes gives people good role models, enhances public health etc, so it's a version of the alleged trickle down effect in economics. Unfortunately I remain to be convinced. I don't like the so-called super yachts either (not that I could afford them, and most are stinkboats anyway, not yachts) but if the technology ends up available to ordinary people, that's good.

I'd guess at least 95% of those ships are owned by people with no interest in boats or the sea. After the first couple of weekends and parties, they might visit for 3-4 days a year.

They are just part of the game. Mine is bigger than yours.

Things you don't see on those boats: Someone diving off the rail into the water, putting out a couple of fishing lines just in case, older women with wrinkles, owners doing a bit of sanding on the woodwork, blokes pissing off the stern....

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I'd guess at least 95% of those ships are owned by people with no interest in boats or the sea. After the first couple of weekends and parties, they might visit for 3-4 days a year.

They are just part of the game. Mine is bigger than yours.

Things you don't see on those boats: Someone diving off the rail into the water, putting out a couple of fishing lines just in case, older women with wrinkles, owners doing a bit of sanding on the woodwork, blokes pissing off the stern....

Totally incorrect
you will find most super yacht owners have a long history in boating and use their boats constantly
they are all crewed and ready to go at any time 24/7
the boats that don't get used as much are in the 50-70 ft range , plenty of marinas around Sydney with many of them
Yachts sit out on moorings for months on end gathering sea gull sheet, even nice ones, so what's your point ?

A good friend of mine was the pilot for the owner of Kokomo III. I believe he actually had 2, one in the Med and one in Sydney. He was an avid racer and had a professional crew for both. I believe he was the helmsman when racing and the 'boss' when onboard socialising... But my mate reckons the boats where used a lot.

Im sure there are superyacht owners out there that use them often. But ive heard plenty of the opposite too from knowing people who crew them.


boats that size are never mooring minders in the sense of the word. Theres always a crew looking after them in one way shape or form. But plenty of them get used grand total 2/3 weeks of the year, and whether theyre sailing vessels or power, they burn plenty of oil just existing.