Icon is also getting a screetcher light weight headsail on a harken endless furler. Hopefully I will be able to sail more when the wind is under 12 knots.

Third pic looks great
Second pic looks over sheeted compared to where the main is, or is it bad position of cars/block

It's a sister ship to mine. It's a mast head mine is 7/8 fractional, I'm thinking clew just aft off the mast. One sail maker is saying he will charge me 15 min drive and return call out to measure up for the quote I thought that's a bit rough.

Time is money during a working week ,15 min there 15 min back ,10 min walk to yacht and back ,measuring ext,ext all of a sudden he has knocked up 2 hrs ,lot of tire kickers ,when you are delivering you
r on an hourly rate.If a sailmaker came out to inspect every boat to quote and didn't receive an order he would go bust.

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spiggie said..
Time is money during a working week ,15 min there 15 min back ,10 min walk to yacht and back ,measuring ext,ext all of a sudden he has knocked up 2 hrs ,lot of tire kickers ,when you are delivering you
r on an hourly rate.If a sailmaker came out to inspect every boat to quote and didn't receive an order he would go bust.

Intresting aspect. I always quote jobs for free. When it's in a local marina that I know. I do charge travel rates for some jobs that require 40 min country drives. Have you ever been charged by a real Estate agent to drive and let you through and try sell you the product? This is new to me getting charged for a quote.

You would be a rarity these days Southace.

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Toph said..
You would be a rarity these days Southace.

I was wondering why the mechanic keeps coming down to order parts I told them the engine number. I ended up saying your like the the doctor doing a check up I don't do doctors anymore waste of time!

Did you run the endless furl lines back to the cockpit , I have a screecher but I have to go forward to unfurl , thinking of running the lines back to the cockpit , selden make some nice gear to do the job .

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southace said..

spiggie said..
Time is money during a working week ,15 min there 15 min back ,10 min walk to yacht and back ,measuring ext,ext all of a sudden he has knocked up 2 hrs ,lot of tire kickers ,when you are delivering you
r on an hourly rate.If a sailmaker came out to inspect every boat to quote and didn't receive an order he would go bust.

Intresting aspect. I always quote jobs for free. When it's in a local marina that I know. I do charge travel rates for some jobs that require 40 min country drives. Have you ever been charged by a real Estate agent to drive and let you through and try sell you the product? This is new to me getting charged for a quote.

Do you know your I, J and STL measurements Southace? Might be a way on solving the charge to quote issue.
I'm with you though, I don't charge to do quotes. Mind you, there are some days I wish you could!

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shane450 said..
Did you run the endless furl lines back to the cockpit , I have a screecher but I have to go forward to unfurl , thinking of running the lines back to the cockpit , selden make some nice gear to do the job .

I did on my previous yacht, I haven't ordered this one yet, the first photos are just a example on what I'm looking for.

That's an awesome looking boat you have there Southace.
What is she?

Will make a big difference to your sailing.
are you going top down furler with internal cable?

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southace said..

spiggie said..
Time is money during a working week ,15 min there 15 min back ,10 min walk to yacht and back ,measuring ext,ext all of a sudden he has knocked up 2 hrs ,lot of tire kickers ,when you are delivering you
r on an hourly rate.If a sailmaker came out to inspect every boat to quote and didn't receive an order he would go bust.

Intresting aspect. I always quote jobs for free. When it's in a local marina that I know. I do charge travel rates for some jobs that require 40 min country drives. Have you ever been charged by a real Estate agent to drive and let you through and try sell you the product? This is new to me getting charged for a quote.

Do you know your I, J and STL measurements Southace? Might be a way on solving the charge to quote issue.
I'm with you though, I don't charge to do quotes. Mind you, there are some days I wish you could!

I'm with you there shaggy, the measurements should get you in for a quote, I'm sure SA could supply the relevant info. I've never charged to quote a job of any sort, it's a bit like asking to get paid to go to job interview. I worked for a builder whom paid us to go through plans and figure how many doors , meters of floor,studs in a wall, cubes in a pour, bla bla, and I'm sure he didn't get paid to put a tender in.
how much will it cost ?
Pay me and I will tell you !

I don't know of any sailmaker to charge for a quote!
on nearly all sails, you only need two measurements to work out a price!
obviously a lot more to design and manufacture.

South ace,
the Code zero versus Gennaker debate for cruising.
I ended up heading toward the latter, with the thought that 90-130 degrees was more useful than heading too much higher, yes it would be nice to have one of each, but the Gennaker is actually able to head up higher than 90 in light stuff, and if I want more out of it downwind, I either drop the main, or I guess I could pole it out like a traditional Spinnaker.
i went the cheaper way with a snuffer, which works pretty well solo. You just need to know when to pack it in, before the wind gets scary!

Apologies for the sideways photo


Cheers Richard

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wildemann said..
That's an awesome looking boat you have there Southace.
What is she?

It's a Adams 40 extended to 42 I belive it's simular hulll lines to the blue water 42 that they where trying to promote the Adams hull further after he hang up the plans.

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Stockie said..
South ace,
the Code zero versus Gennaker debate for cruising.
I ended up heading toward the latter, with the thought that 90-130 degrees was more useful than heading too much higher, yes it would be nice to have one of each, but the Gennaker is actually able to head up higher than 90 in light stuff, and if I want more out of it downwind, I either drop the main, or I guess I could pole it out like a traditional Spinnaker.
i went the cheaper way with a snuffer, which works pretty well solo. You just need to know when to pack it in, before the wind gets scary!

Apologies for the sideways photo


Cheers Richard

Cheers yes I think I might get a shock on price! Maybe over 5k . Cheaper to use the Perkins 60hp in light wind!

Seems Selden don't make a retractable bow pole for the code 0 for a 10 ton yacht, I guess that's because the code 0 can be used for up wind sailing and the tack and head would be under such loads, the gennaker/asymmetrical could be possible unless I can come up with another idea! Dam it's hard work looking into all this stuff .

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southace said..
It's a sister ship to mine. It's a mast head mine is 7/8 fractional, I'm thinking clew just aft off the mast. One sail maker is saying he will charge me 15 min drive and return call out to measure up for the quote I thought that's a bit rough.

Thats rediculous.
Try Bravo Sails at the squadron.

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stray said..

southace said..
It's a sister ship to mine. It's a mast head mine is 7/8 fractional, I'm thinking clew just aft off the mast. One sail maker is saying he will charge me 15 min drive and return call out to measure up for the quote I thought that's a bit rough.

Thats rediculous.
Try Bravo Sails at the squadron.

Yes bravo said he might come down Monday for measure up. Haven't heard since. I think I need to get a attachment point sorted first anyways.

I think you may be fine with an assy rather than a Code 0. I have both but as the boat is a multi she works better with a Code 0 as she has a smaller headsail and I built a prodder with chainplates to handle the high luff loading.

A Code 0 on a prodder must have a line to take the upwards forces - like an old fashioned waterstay for a bowsprit. You need a new high tech bowsprit with waterstay. That may take some serious coin to fashion up, although you could use it for anchoring too. You could build the thing yourself in composite for less than a thousand but it will take some time. I think it would be impossible to just buy a prodder. It will have to custom fitted to account for the foredeck fittings and bow roller.

As monos don't sail the higher angles that multis do, I would recommend the assy rather than the Code 0.

cheers

Phil