Hi all

Any thoughts on this one

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/northshore-33-excellent-condition-cruiser-racer-many-upgrades/251164

Regards Don

Looks in pretty good condition. I looked at a Northshore 33 awhile ago and I did not like the layout of the toilet being in the centre cabin, made the main cabin feel cramped. On a 32-34 ft yacht prefer the toilet either being at the back adjacent to the cockpit (as per a Van De Stadt 34) or forward (as per a UFO 34, which I ended up purchasing). Also when I first stepped on a Northshore 33 I was surprised at how much the yacht "rocked" in the pen. Was a lot more noticable than the other 32-34 ft yachts I was looking at.

Ilenart

Hi Don,
The design of the Northshore 33 (by Laurie Davidson) is near faultless and I think a good step up for you.

Design is where it starts so it is just a matter of picking which one to buy.

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Ilenart said..
Also when I first stepped on a Northshore 33 I was surprised at how much the yacht "rocked" in the pen.

That is only an indication of initial stability which one would expect on a light weight beamy hull.

Shaft drive or saildrive?? With a volvo in a Northshore, one has to ask.

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cisco said..

Ilenart said..
That is only an indication of initial stability which one would expect on a light weight beamy hull.

The comparison was for very similar yachts such as UFO 34, Cavalier 34, Van de Stadt 34 & S&S 34, none of which displayed this issue.

If it is a three cylinder engine shaft drive is the only way to go in my books.

Laurie Davidson did not design the NS33 - rather Hank Kaufman. The effusive advert is very well compiled but the design is not "well ahead of its time". I don't know why Hank stuck to the highly raked stem - the NS27 lost so much waterline length as a result, and the 33 similarly. Ok so didn't expect a plumb stem but these designs had too much IOR influence for no good reason. The offset companionway design can polarise as alluded to above. Anyway a fine all rounder all the same. I would buy one if into this market.

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Ilenart said..
The comparison was for very similar yachts such as UFO 34, Cavalier 34, Van de Stadt 34 & S&S 34, none of which displayed this issue.

Interesting discussion. I am not familiar with UFO or Cav 34s but am with VDS & S&S 34s.

Do you think the Northshore 33 is a tender yacht?

When Morningbird stepped on my Lotus 9.2 he thought she was tender for the same reason.

Ain't necessarily so. A narrow deep keel hull will usually have high initial stabilty which may decrease with angle of heel whereas the opposite may be true for a beamy fin keeled yacht.

Google is not good enough to give us stability curves for what we are talking about.

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r13 said..
Laurie Davidson did not design the NS33 - rather Hank Kaufman.

Well I beg my pardon. Sailboatdata is not what it used to be. The Cav 28 is LD and the similarity (transom hung rudder) led me to believe.

Nonetheless, the Northshore 33 is a great yacht.

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cisco said..

Ilenart said..
The comparison was for very similar yachts such as UFO 34, Cavalier 34, Van de Stadt 34 & S&S 34, none of which displayed this issue.

Interesting discussion. I am not familiar with UFO or Cav 34s but am with VDS & S&S 34s.

Do you think the Northshore 33 is a tender yacht?

When Morningbird stepped on my Lotus 9.2 he thought she was tender for the same reason.

Ain't necessarily so. A narrow deep keel hull will usually have high initial stabilty which may decrease with angle of heel whereas the opposite may be true for a beamy fin keeled yacht.

Google is not good enough to give us stability curves for what we are talking about.

My wife described the Northshore 33 as a tender yacht, so that that was about it in evaluating the N33

Hi all

thanks for your input

not sure if she is saildrive or shaft (preferred) but hopefully I can have a look over her this afternoon

Regards Don

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Ilenart said..
The comparison was for very similar yachts such as UFO 34, Cavalier 34, Van de Stadt 34 & S&S 34, none of which displayed this issue.

Interesting discussion. I am not familiar with UFO or Cav 34s but am with VDS & S&S 34s.

Do you think the Northshore 33 is a tender yacht?

When Morningbird stepped on my Lotus 9.2 he thought she was tender for the same reason.

Ain't necessarily so. A narrow deep keel hull will usually have high initial stabilty which may decrease with angle of heel whereas the opposite may be true for a beamy fin keeled yacht.

Google is not good enough to give us stability curves for what we are talking about.

i was once told by an old guy back in the 80s that to be suspect of any boat that didnt roll when stepping aboard as its motion at sea would be atrocious because of its sharp motion fishermen will often say sharpies are stiff with a sharp motion but carvels have soft motion but more roll

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Ilenart said..
Looks in pretty good condition. I looked at a Northshore 33 awhile ago and I did not like the layout of the toilet being in the centre cabin, made the main cabin feel cramped. On a 32-34 ft yacht prefer the toilet either being at the back adjacent to the cockpit (as per a Van De Stadt 34) or forward (as per a UFO 34, which I ended up purchasing). Also when I first stepped on a Northshore 33 I was surprised at how much the yacht "rocked" in the pen. Was a lot more noticable than the other 32-34 ft yachts I was looking at.

Ilenart

I had a look at one of these here on the slips a couple of years ago. The new owner had just paid 17 grand for it and it was in need of a topsides paint. The owner was a well known Sydney Hobart racer whose name I've forgotten but he could not turn down a bargain. Apparently the NS33 had a nickname that also escapes my frail memory but it had to do with the main use of NS33's on Pittwater. They were the choice of businessmen to visit on weekdays with their secretaries. The centre large toilet facilities were ideal for for these sort of things.

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Ramona said..

Ilenart said..
Looks in pretty good condition. I looked at a Northshore 33 awhile ago and I did not like the layout of the toilet being in the centre cabin, made the main cabin feel cramped. On a 32-34 ft yacht prefer the toilet either being at the back adjacent to the cockpit (as per a Van De Stadt 34) or forward (as per a UFO 34, which I ended up purchasing). Also when I first stepped on a Northshore 33 I was surprised at how much the yacht "rocked" in the pen. Was a lot more noticable than the other 32-34 ft yachts I was looking at.

Ilenart

I had a look at one of these here on the slips a couple of years ago. The new owner had just paid 17 grand for it and it was in need of a topsides paint. The owner was a well known Sydney Hobart racer whose name I've forgotten but he could not turn down a bargain. Apparently the NS33 had a nickname that also escapes my frail memory but it had to do with the main use of NS33's on Pittwater. They were the choice of businessmen to visit on weekdays with their secretaries. The centre large toilet facilities were ideal for for these sort of things.

LOL, was the nickname NaughtyShore? NudeSecretary?

When I was looking for a new boat, I made notes on the boats I came across. One of them was the Northshore 33 Obsession with an asking price of $45K in 2018. These are the notes I made at the berth. I did not sail it ...

Very roomy cabin with centre head/shower. Small cockpit with bimini. Wheel and binnacle fills large part of cockpit - need to climb around wheel. Furler. Small offset companionway. Seems like a large boat. Large double bed aft. Dinette and forepeak appear to be a squeeze.

Overall, my impression was big cabin, small cockpit, which is OK if you spend most of your time inside, but not what I was looking for.

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Ilenart said..

Ramona said..

Ilenart said..
Looks in pretty good condition. I looked at a Northshore 33 awhile ago and I did not like the layout of the toilet being in the centre cabin, made the main cabin feel cramped. On a 32-34 ft yacht prefer the toilet either being at the back adjacent to the cockpit (as per a Van De Stadt 34) or forward (as per a UFO 34, which I ended up purchasing). Also when I first stepped on a Northshore 33 I was surprised at how much the yacht "rocked" in the pen. Was a lot more noticable than the other 32-34 ft yachts I was looking at.

Ilenart

I had a look at one of these here on the slips a couple of years ago. The new owner had just paid 17 grand for it and it was in need of a topsides paint. The owner was a well known Sydney Hobart racer whose name I've forgotten but he could not turn down a bargain. Apparently the NS33 had a nickname that also escapes my frail memory but it had to do with the main use of NS33's on Pittwater. They were the choice of businessmen to visit on weekdays with their secretaries. The centre large toilet facilities were ideal for for these sort of things.

LOL, was the nickname NaughtyShore? NudeSecretary?

No, it was something clever and I should have written it down!

great sailing boat !!! big main 7/8 rig i think the one sailed was . fast comfy yacht !

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Donk107 said..
Hi all

Any thoughts on this one

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/northshore-33-excellent-condition-cruiser-racer-many-upgrades/251164

Regards Don

Why don't you look at something like an s111? Or farr 11.6?
Both are very good value

Hi all

We went and had a look over the boat this afternoon and she is a shaft drive

It is a tidy boat but we will not be going any further because of the following reasons which possibly would not worry a lot of people

We are both in our late 50's,tallish and probably need to loose a few pounds and it was a bit difficult to enter and exit the cabin compared to our current Sailmaster and once inside the cabin because of the layout it seemed a bit cramped compared to our current boat and the headroom from the galley forward was a bit limited as well

Also I understand that the traveller in the centre of the cockpit is in a handy position when sailing but I would probably prefer it on the cabin top like the Sailmaster to free up apace in the cockpit

It was a nice boat but we didn't fall in love with it so we will keep looking and possibly we need to go a bit more cruiser and a bit less racer to meet our preferences

Regards Don

Have you considered this boat ? its got your name written all over it ! .....forget the position of the main traveler , perfect for you to dump the main in the gust from the helm to stop your crew from yelling at you !! go buy this one Donk and be done with it !!yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/challenger-36-cleo/151142

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Have you considered this boat ? its got your name written all over it ! .....forget the position of the main traveler , perfect for you to dump the main in the gust from the helm to stop your crew from yelling at you !! go buy this one Donk and be done with it !!yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/challenger-36-cleo/151142

Hi Sands

A nice looking boat but a bit longer than what we are after, a bit more expensive than what we want to spend at the moment (less than $50,000 would be good) and a saildrive where as I would prefer a shaft drive

Not actually sure that what we want exists but we will keep looking and see what turns up

Regards Don

shoulda wouda couda ??

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/wilson-motor-sailer-huon-pine-spacious-layout/242500

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SandS said..
shoulda wouda couda ??

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/wilson-motor-sailer-huon-pine-spacious-layout/242500

Hi Sands

That one is a bit to much cruiser for me

We compete in the twilights and weekend races down here as well as cruising so I want something that sails ok in a reasonably light breeze

To be honest if the Sailmaster had a hot shower, fridge and a comfy bed and a bit more room inside I would be happy to keep her

We have been spoilt by the easy access in and out of the cabin and the open layout and it is a bit tight in the quarter berths for people our size so we sleep on the seating and they are a bit on the narrow size as well

Regards Don

32 cavalier ?

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/cavalier-32/250739

Hi Sands

She is a local boat on the Huon and I saw that she was for sale and is now under contract but probably not quite what we are looking for

Regards Don

What about the UFO up town and the Farr 37 there as well

Traveller on the roof will be hard although there are two Brolgas up in Vidtoria.

What about the beautiful "Rampant"

just make the offer.

That Farr 37 in Hobart would be a nice boat with a furler. They are big boats but pleasant to sail. Young couple here own one as their first sailing boat! Has a tiller and is very responsive. Just takes a bit to get used to the vast size.

Don,
Are you just looking only in Tas or further afield also? Happy to go look at anything in Vic and send you pics & a report once stage 4 lifts.

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Ramona said..

Ilenart said..
Looks in pretty good condition. I looked at a Northshore 33 awhile ago and I did not like the layout of the toilet being in the centre cabin, made the main cabin feel cramped. On a 32-34 ft yacht prefer the toilet either being at the back adjacent to the cockpit (as per a Van De Stadt 34) or forward (as per a UFO 34, which I ended up purchasing). Also when I first stepped on a Northshore 33 I was surprised at how much the yacht "rocked" in the pen. Was a lot more noticable than the other 32-34 ft yachts I was looking at.

Ilenart

I had a look at one of these here on the slips a couple of years ago. The new owner had just paid 17 grand for it and it was in need of a topsides paint. The owner was a well known Sydney Hobart racer whose name I've forgotten but he could not turn down a bargain. Apparently the NS33 had a nickname that also escapes my frail memory but it had to do with the main use of NS33's on Pittwater. They were the choice of businessmen to visit on weekdays with their secretaries. The centre large toilet facilities were ideal for for these sort of things.

Pittwater play boat...