We were going to fit an Origo oven to our boat, but it turns out that they have recently ceased production and no one has any in stock. Since we are not interested in gas, the alternative is a kero Maxie oven. Does anyone have experience with these? Are they pressurised and if so, how? What about the smell, internally and externally?

After years of experience with Maxie's metho stove, we would like to just sit the metho stove on top of the kero oven (well, we'll bolt it down, actually :-) ). Does that sound practical? We were going to remove the Origo stove if we got the oven it comes with because we have not been very happy with the stove itself, which we find far inferior to the Maxie.

Thanks for any input.

try searching on here . I think Hg did a lot of work on a kero set set up a couple of years back

Thanks, but Hg's unit was quite different -a Taylor, I think.

I did find a post from Cisco that showed where the pressure valve normally is on Maxie kero stoves, but the oven/stove unit I'm looking at seems to be a different design.

We're mainly interested in whether they smell, and whether they cook OK, because we will probably stick to the metho stovetop for most cooking.

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Chris249 said..
Thanks, but Hg's unit was quite different -a Taylor, I think.

I did find a post from Cisco that showed where the pressure valve normally is on Maxie kero stoves, but the oven/stove unit I'm looking at seems to be a different design.

We're mainly interested in whether they smell, and whether they cook OK, because we will probably stick to the metho stovetop for most cooking.

Why do you prefer metho to gas?

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Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
Thanks, but Hg's unit was quite different -a Taylor, I think.

I did find a post from Cisco that showed where the pressure valve normally is on Maxie kero stoves, but the oven/stove unit I'm looking at seems to be a different design.

We're mainly interested in whether they smell, and whether they cook OK, because we will probably stick to the metho stovetop for most cooking.

Why do you prefer metho to gas?

Could be wrong but I,m thinking one reason could be he doesn't like to the heighten the risk of explosions inside his boat . Just a guess though .

Outside of the box a lot of people love the Cobb cooker as an oven alternative.

Have you tried Seabreeze industries in between brissey and the Gold Coast they might have one in stock
07 5546 2804

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SandS said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
Thanks, but Hg's unit was quite different -a Taylor, I think.

I did find a post from Cisco that showed where the pressure valve normally is on Maxie kero stoves, but the oven/stove unit I'm looking at seems to be a different design.

We're mainly interested in whether they smell, and whether they cook OK, because we will probably stick to the metho stovetop for most cooking.

Why do you prefer metho to gas?

Could be wrong but I,m thinking one reason could be he doesn't like to the heighten the risk of explosions inside his boat . Just a guess though .

I am guessing its that too.
Is there any evidence of gas explosions on boats?

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Bundeenabuoy said..

SandS said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
Thanks, but Hg's unit was quite different -a Taylor, I think.

I did find a post from Cisco that showed where the pressure valve normally is on Maxie kero stoves, but the oven/stove unit I'm looking at seems to be a different design.

We're mainly interested in whether they smell, and whether they cook OK, because we will probably stick to the metho stovetop for most cooking.

Why do you prefer metho to gas?

Could be wrong but I,m thinking one reason could be he doesn't like to the heighten the risk of explosions inside his boat . Just a guess though .

I am guessing its that too.
Is there any evidence of gas explosions on boats?

The evidence is usually up in the sky somewhere.

the kero stove I had used to cough and splutter I tried cleaning the jets and getting replacement parts from overseas can be a problem.

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Bundeenabuoy said..

SandS said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
Thanks, but Hg's unit was quite different -a Taylor, I think.

I did find a post from Cisco that showed where the pressure valve normally is on Maxie kero stoves, but the oven/stove unit I'm looking at seems to be a different design.

We're mainly interested in whether they smell, and whether they cook OK, because we will probably stick to the metho stovetop for most cooking.

Why do you prefer metho to gas?

Could be wrong but I,m thinking one reason could be he doesn't like to the heighten the risk of explosions inside his boat . Just a guess though .

I am guessing its that too.
Is there any evidence of gas explosions on boats?

LPG is heavier than air . If a leak develops in a stove , inside a boat , the gas will fill the bilge first then rise higher as the bilge fills. when it finds a ignition source like say a small spark from a 12 volt battery or starter motor .....................KARRRR****ING BOOOOOMMMM no evidence remains only particles of poo from the underpants of the former crew of the vessel , on the bottom of the ocean .

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SandS said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

SandS said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
Thanks, but Hg's unit was quite different -a Taylor, I think.

I did find a post from Cisco that showed where the pressure valve normally is on Maxie kero stoves, but the oven/stove unit I'm looking at seems to be a different design.

We're mainly interested in whether they smell, and whether they cook OK, because we will probably stick to the metho stovetop for most cooking.

Why do you prefer metho to gas?

Could be wrong but I,m thinking one reason could be he doesn't like to the heighten the risk of explosions inside his boat . Just a guess though .

I am guessing its that too.
Is there any evidence of gas explosions on boats?

LPG is heavier than air . If a leak develops in a stove , inside a boat , the gas will fill the bilge first then rise higher as the bilge fills. when it finds a ignition source like say a small spark from a 12 volt battery or starter motor .....................KARRRR****ING BOOOOOMMMM no evidence remains only particles of poo from the underpants of the former crew of the vessel , on the bottom of the ocean .

Hi all,
Does anyone know of validated statistics of gas fires/explosions/injuries on yachts, whose cause can be reasonably, directly, attributed to LPG equipment?
regards to all
allan

This is worth watching. It is not that easy to blow a boat up as you will see but certainly doable intentionally.

If you want to do it and make an insurance claim, keep a copy of your gas certificate at home.

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Datawiz said..

SandS said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

SandS said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
Thanks, but Hg's unit was quite different -a Taylor, I think.

I did find a post from Cisco that showed where the pressure valve normally is on Maxie kero stoves, but the oven/stove unit I'm looking at seems to be a different design.

We're mainly interested in whether they smell, and whether they cook OK, because we will probably stick to the metho stovetop for most cooking.

Why do you prefer metho to gas?

Could be wrong but I,m thinking one reason could be he doesn't like to the heighten the risk of explosions inside his boat . Just a guess though .

I am guessing its that too.
Is there any evidence of gas explosions on boats?

LPG is heavier than air . If a leak develops in a stove , inside a boat , the gas will fill the bilge first then rise higher as the bilge fills. when it finds a ignition source like say a small spark from a 12 volt battery or starter motor .....................KARRRR****ING BOOOOOMMMM no evidence remains only particles of poo from the underpants of the former crew of the vessel , on the bottom of the ocean .

Hi all,
Does anyone know of validated statistics of gas fires/explosions/injuries on yachts, whose cause can be reasonably, directly, attributed to LPG equipment?
regards to all
allan

www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12097885 - 2018 in NZ.

classicyacht.org.nz/cyaforum/topic/the-lpg-explosion-at-coromandel/ References to two other incidents in NZ since 2002.

www.maritimenz.govt.nz/commercial/safety/accidents-reporting/accident-reports/documents/Lucky-Star-051178-mnz-accident-report2005.pdf Report on a fourth NZ incident, in 2005. Boat lost, skipper severely injured.

When I was a kid we pulled someone off a burning boat after an explosion. I don't get seasick very often but the smell of barbecued human does not sit well on my stomach.

Unlike some other hazards, this is one that can catch you when you least expect it - when you are sleepily rising at anchor in the morning and go to make a cup of coffee, for example. I am happy with assessing risks in many situations but don't want to have to be wary almost all the time.

I also dislike having to go outside to turn a gas bottle on and off when it's raining (as I prefer to do) and find it easier to grab some metho from the supermarket when doing the weekend shopping, rather than going to get gas in a heavy metal container. YMMV.

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andy59 said..
Have you tried Seabreeze industries in between brissey and the Gold Coast they might have one in stock
07 5546 2804

Thanks, but like all former dealers they say they are out of stock.

Thanks for feedback, guys. We have ended up going for the kero oven and will put the metho stove on top. We've got a Cobb, which works quite well, but my wife is a keen cook and wants an oven.

Hopefully the Maxie won't suffer from the issues that some imported units have, but normally we will be using the ultra-reliable Maxie metho stove anyway.

At the risk of appearing a worry-wart, another risk to consider is gas asphyxiation. Recently, someone died in NSW on a boat through carbon monoxide asphyxiation (if I recall). So, get a gas detector and alarm for a few tens of dollars. There are plenty of makes and models to choose from.

Fair call - we may as well get something to stop that.

I actually have a metho heater which was a big help when I lived aboard the old 28'er, but one had to leave the hatch open which obviously reduced the heating effect.

yep you can kill your self heaps of different ways. If I recall the chap in Sydney last year was using the stove for a heater with no ventilation and basically burnt all the oxygen in the available air. Anyone remember those Ol kero heaters same deal.
A made for purpose gas stove with thermo couplings on each burner, check couplings every bottle change a gas sniffer in the bilge and close the bottle as you do with sea cocks when leaving the ship. I can live with that.
Sounds like the liquid fuel stoves might be getting hard to get bits for ?
I agree tho a couple of litres of metho or kero is easier to cater for than a pressure vessel.
is diesel an alternative ?

Diesel stoves are very expensive and seem to need a flue; I don't know why gas and metho don't.

I'm quite happy if other people prefer and feel safe with gas, but since we see no real advantage in it there seems to be no reason to go that way. The other issue is the $1500+ for the new installation and checking (our gas locker may not comply), the loss of a useful exterior locker, and the higher price for a gas stove.

It's interesting when viewing ads for yachts with kero and metho oven/stoves they often have gas cannister camping stoves nearby. I should imagine they are for when the owner just wants to boil water for a brew.

Perhaps, but I've had a metho stove since 1985, have lived on board for years, and my wife is also a fan after using them for weekend/holiday cruising since 2002 so we personally find the short delay is no big deal.

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SandS said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

SandS said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
Thanks, but Hg's unit was quite different -a Taylor, I think.

I did find a post from Cisco that showed where the pressure valve normally is on Maxie kero stoves, but the oven/stove unit I'm looking at seems to be a different design.

We're mainly interested in whether they smell, and whether they cook OK, because we will probably stick to the metho stovetop for most cooking.

Why do you prefer metho to gas?

Could be wrong but I,m thinking one reason could be he doesn't like to the heighten the risk of explosions inside his boat . Just a guess though .

I am guessing its that too.
Is there any evidence of gas explosions on boats?

LPG is heavier than air . If a leak develops in a stove , inside a boat , the gas will fill the bilge first then rise higher as the bilge fills. when it finds a ignition source like say a small spark from a 12 volt battery or starter motor .....................KARRRR****ING BOOOOOMMMM no evidence remains only particles of poo from the underpants of the former crew of the vessel , on the bottom of the ocean .

Some regularly vacuum the cabin to remove the potential threat.
If the gas is turned off at the cylinder and the stove correctly, where's the problem?

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Some regularly vacuum the cabin to remove the potential threat.
If the gas is turned off at the cylinder and the stove correctly, where's the problem?

I don't think vacuuming the cabin with an electric machine with brushes in the motor is a good idea if there is plenty of gas in the air!

Not sure if gas would stay in the vac bag either

I like gas cooking ,but I use a maxi metho stove inside and use a Weber baby que outside . Gas bottles stored in a well designed and patented holder . Bbq sits in mounts I made on back deck just behind solar panel . Bake ,roast etc in the que just like an oven . Fray Bentos pies and roast veges are a dream on a cold wet day . ?? Pics are best I have sorry . There are always alternatives to genuine boat stuff.

Oldboy
I would consider that a pretty well ventilated gas canister locker.
Nice BIG drain holes.

Gary