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Lowering the Main

Created by Toph Toph  > 9 months ago, 6 Jun 2017
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Toph
Toph

WA

1875 posts

6 Jun 2017 3:54pm
Brains Trust
New (to me) yacht with new (to me) issues that I am sure we can sort out

When lowering the main, the sail doesn't drop as quick as I expect or even as far as I expect. I find myself having to hank most of it down by hand. I have recently sprayed the sail track and carts with a lubricant (made slight improvement), no apparent tangles in reefing lines or anything obvious. The only thing I can think of is that the main halyard is reasonably thick and much thicker then the rest of the lines and this could cause some resistance.

What could I be missing
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve

QLD

2195 posts

6 Jun 2017 6:40pm
How's the masthead sheaves? Wrong size sheaves for the rope , or any issues up there make hoisting and lowering difficult.
Trek
Trek

NSW

1194 posts

6 Jun 2017 6:43pm
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Sectorsteve said..
How's the masthead sheaves? Wrong size sheaves for the rope , or any issues up there make hoisting and lowering difficult.

Yes. Hoist a line up instead of the main and see if problem is halyard or sail track.
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve

QLD

2195 posts

6 Jun 2017 6:52pm
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Trek said..

Sectorsteve said..
How's the masthead sheaves? Wrong size sheaves for the rope , or any issues up there make hoisting and lowering difficult.


Yes. Hoist a line up instead of the main and see if problem is halyard or sail track.


brilliant. I should have asked this question before I unstepped ! That'll work!
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve

QLD

2195 posts

6 Jun 2017 6:54pm
My sheaves were worn in fact they were square. Now I can raise and lower my main by hand . No winches required
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter

QLD

2661 posts

6 Jun 2017 8:04pm
If not masthead, try feeding halyard into mast entry sheave. I can have no wraps on the halyard winch and the sail is still slow to drop. Stand next to the mast and feed it, its down in seconds.
Donk107
Donk107

TAS

2446 posts

6 Jun 2017 8:26pm
Hi Toph

If the sheeves etc check out ok what length boat do you have and what diameter are the existing halyards

On my 28 footer i had old 12mm double braid/wire halyards which i replaced with 8mm Dyneema and the sails go up and down much easier

I think it was well worth the money

Regards Don







FreeRadical
FreeRadical

WA

855 posts

6 Jun 2017 9:28pm
Are you lowering it with the mainsheet or vang on too much?
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

7 Jun 2017 8:01am
Raise the boom with the topping lift slightly.
Toph
Toph

WA

1875 posts

8 Jun 2017 5:16pm
Thanks for all the replies.

So it wasn't the the vang or mainsheet being too tight nor the topping lift. Obviously I thrived the easier options first.
So I am still hopeful it is a too thick halyard causing friction (I tried your option too Shaggy).

It is either that or up the mast I (my wife ) will go to look at the sheeves...
Jode5
Jode5

QLD

853 posts

8 Jun 2017 8:11pm
A simple fix is to fit a retrieval line which are handy even if everything is in good order.
Tie a 4 or 6mm cord from the sail head to usually the top reef point. Make it so when the sail is hoisted the cord is tight. With a retrieval line it is just a matter of hauling the sail down. They are particularly good when the wind is blowing as you can tie the sail down tight.
southace
southace

SA

4794 posts

8 Jun 2017 7:49pm
I fitted the tides marine track system last year only got a chance to use it twice since last Christmas. The main drops like lightning now....it's still hard to host only due to the weight of the sail. Is your main hard to hoist Toph?
cisco
cisco

QLD

12364 posts

8 Jun 2017 10:00pm
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Ramona said..
Raise the boom with the topping lift slightly.


That is one many of us miss.
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