Lift Keel 30ft Boat??

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valo > 9 months ago, 4 Mar 2019

valo

NSW

309 posts

4 Mar 2019 6:37pm

Are there any 30-32ft lift keel boats out there?
I haven't come across any in the last 12 months of looking at boats for sale.
Thanks.

shaggybaxter

QLD

2661 posts

4 Mar 2019 5:45pm

Hi Valo,
New or second hand good sir?

Donk107

TAS

2446 posts

4 Mar 2019 6:52pm

Hi Valo

If you are looking for used and something fast there is the Hobie 33 or a Melges 32

There is one of each in Hobart (not for sale) and they both go pretty well

Regards Don

valo

NSW

309 posts

4 Mar 2019 6:54pm

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shaggybaxter said..
Hi Valo,
New or second hand good sir?

Second hand around $30k
I want to do some sailing up and sown the coast as well as in Lake Mac. I like the option of anchoring in close to shore if possible.

Thanks Shaggy.

valo

NSW

309 posts

4 Mar 2019 7:09pm

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Donk107 said..
Hi Valo

If you are looking for used and something fast there is the Hobie 33 or a Melges 32

There is one of each in Hobart (not for sale) and they both go pretty well

Regards Don

Thanks Don.
Looking for a spacious cruiser.
Sorry, should have explained better.
Don't yell at me SirG

Bananabender

QLD

1610 posts

4 Mar 2019 7:05pm

For around $30 I'd be looking at but perhaps not spacious enough.
tsvboats.com/townsvillebrokers/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/farr-b30-trailerable-cruiser-racer/222994/

SandS

VIC

5904 posts

4 Mar 2019 8:11pm

nolex 30

cisco

QLD

12364 posts

5 Mar 2019 12:31am

I am with SandS or a Farrier Trailer Tri.

slammin

QLD

998 posts

5 Mar 2019 5:53am

$30k Nolex? You'd be lucky even with a drop in prices. A 25 with no trailer maybe.

SteveTH

9 posts

5 Mar 2019 5:18am

There is a Feeling 326 listed on boats-on- line which might suit you. Feelings are French boats with a good reputation in Europe.

Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

5 Mar 2019 8:53am

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valo said..
Thanks everyone.

I want something that doesn't need too much work.
I found this. I'd jump on it if it had a lifting keel.

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1979-swanson-32/OAG-AD-16566759/?_ga=2.60157549.1524663544.1551684366-740488511.1533195908&_gac=1.225399144.1551733088.Cj0KCQiAtvPjBRDPARIsAJfZz0qchKJ25uaSum9n7bF9ykRT1nrQcHDGR7FQ6oyCKvP9AtgvzUVa1-YaAo__EALw_wcB

Has almost EVERYTHING I want!! Just missing a dodger.

That is a lovely boat. Nice fit out inside, excellent motor and a good windvane. Only thing that would spoil it is a dodger!

Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

5 Mar 2019 8:59am

A few years ago there was a 30 plus footer on a mooring near mine that had just had a few days on the slips. It had a drop keel and a drop rudder and the owner left them up on the mooring. He came down there one day to sail her away to his home port. It was a gusty Westerly and I sat in my cockpit for about 30 minutes watching him trying to catch his boat in his dinghy as it charged about on the courtesy mooring!

sirgallivant

NSW

1531 posts

5 Mar 2019 10:31am

This is the ducks guts although it is out of your league, pricewise.

~~https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dick-zaal-zeevink-aluminium-with-centre-board/228610~~

shaggybaxter

QLD

2661 posts

5 Mar 2019 9:59am

Hi Valo,
Outside OZ, the french and the poms were pretty good at lift keels and have quite a long history with the concept.
What about a Feeling 326? They were different to previous Feelings in the keel swings up more into the hull than a stub on the previous versions, so a shallower draft with keel up.
I know its a little above your price range, but with such a strong buyers market you may be surprised?

~~https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/feeling-326-shallow-draft/181330~~

valo

NSW

309 posts

5 Mar 2019 11:45am

That Feeling 326, SteveTH & Shaggy, same one, would be great. However, way out of my price range. Doubt if they would reduce it by half!

valo

NSW

309 posts

5 Mar 2019 11:50am

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Ramona said..

That is a lovely boat. Nice fit out inside, excellent motor and a good windvane. Only thing that would spoil it is a dodger!

getting out of the weather trumps looks

valo

NSW

309 posts

5 Mar 2019 11:51am

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Ramona said..
A few years ago there was a 30 plus footer on a mooring near mine that had just had a few days on the slips. It had a drop keel and a drop rudder and the owner left them up on the mooring. He came down there one day to sail her away to his home port. It was a gusty Westerly and I sat in my cockpit for about 30 minutes watching him trying to catch his boat in his dinghy as it charged about on the courtesy mooring!

My Mate has an Adams 13 drop keel. Loves it! Just don't leave the keel up on the mooring.

shaggybaxter

QLD

2661 posts

5 Mar 2019 10:58am

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valo said..
That Feeling 326, SteveTH & Shaggy, same one, would be great. However, way out of my price range. Doubt if they would reduce it by half!

Oops! Apologies to SteveTH , I missed that post. Yeah, I re-read the blurb, he seems pretty convinced it's a low ball price already, so scrap that one!

valo

NSW

309 posts

5 Mar 2019 12:38pm

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Muzz65 said..
What about this? Pretty much ticks the boxes.
~~https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/freedom-yachts-33-centreboard-cat-ketch/228499~~

That's nice.

No stays to replace.
Only 2 sails to replace instead of a bunch of headsails!

What do you think he means by -
" I hope to find an enthusiastic like-minded sailor who understands the unique characteristics of the Freedom design and who will get as much enjoyment from owning her as I have"

Bananabender

QLD

1610 posts

5 Mar 2019 12:11pm

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valo said..

Muzz65 said..
What about this? Pretty much ticks the boxes.
~~https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/freedom-yachts-33-centreboard-cat-ketch/228499~~

I remember when they first came out in the 80's and thought they would be great for coastal cruising and easily handled solo .
Some pretty noteworthy designers have been involved of the years . Holland , Mull, Hoyt etc.
Not sure about unstayed masts in a pumping sea but I suppose you
avoid such. Unique characteristics? Just look at it rigging wise.
For what you want in your price range perfect just make sure you check out the centreboard mechanism for wear and rust .

samsturdy

NSW

1659 posts

5 Mar 2019 1:19pm

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valo said..

Muzz65 said..
What about this? Pretty much ticks the boxes.
~~https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/freedom-yachts-33-centreboard-cat-ketch/228499~~

If you want to get in close to shore try a bilge keeler. It'll stand upright too.

Bananabender

QLD

1610 posts

17 Mar 2019 6:09pm

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valo said..
Found it!
~~https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/trailer-boats/farr-b30-lift-keel/218603~~
Now I just have to sell my soul to buy it!
I can keep dreaming though

Mate you could do a deal here.
You don't want the trailer which is worth a few quid so .
1.Offer 28000 and he keeps trailer . ( He could sell for over 5000 )
2. Offer 30ishand sell trailer.
Rigo is nearly due so make sure it is reregistered

Yara

NSW

1314 posts

17 Mar 2019 8:42pm

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Bananabender said..

valo said..
Found it!
~~https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/trailer-boats/farr-b30-lift-keel/218603~~
Now I just have to sell my soul to buy it!
I can keep dreaming though

You do want the trailer. Save on slipping, go to windward at 50 knots. However big lifting keels can be more trouble than they are worth.

LooseChange

NSW

2140 posts

17 Mar 2019 8:49pm

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Yara said..

You do want the trailer. Save on slipping, go to windward at 50 knots. However big lifting keels can be more trouble than they are worth.

The cost of owning and maintaining a suitable tow vehicle plus the cost of ownership for the trailer would soon negate any saving on mooring and slipping. Cause you surely aint gonna tow that with ya Holden ute.

Andrew68

VIC

433 posts

17 Mar 2019 10:49pm

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valo said..
Found it!
~~https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/trailer-boats/farr-b30-lift-keel/218603~~
Now I just have to sell my soul to buy it!
I can keep dreaming though

That Binks is a real beast. I can't imagine what raising the mast is like.

I particularly liked this one that is a bit more manageable :
yachthub.com/list/boats-for-sale/used/trailer-boats/kaufman-26/212958

A

Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

18 Mar 2019 8:56am

I would be concerned with the added costs of maintaining a lifting keel yacht, Coming out of the water with the keel locked down on conventional slips might be OK with small yachts. Bigger boats in the 30 foot range might mean a travel lift and the boat chocked high off the ground. Same with centreboard yachts and I'm sure this is what kills their resale value. Might be some convenience in getting close inshore but I think I would prefer a shallow draft boat instead.

Bananabender

QLD

1610 posts

18 Mar 2019 8:30am

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Bananabender said..

valo said..
Found it!
~~https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/trailer-boats/farr-b30-lift-keel/218603~~
Now I just have to sell my soul to buy it!
I can keep dreaming though

Just reread ad. He's offering a yard trailer PLUS a steel hard stand with the boat.
The three wheel registered trailer is optional.

Yara

NSW

1314 posts

18 Mar 2019 10:35am

Large, lift keel boats are necessary for places like Atlantic Europe where large tides occur, and harbours dry out. For most of the population in Australia we don't have this problem, so a lift or swing keel is extra hassle and cost, for no real benefit.

Even when it comes to trailer-sailers, for which a swing keel makes sense, I prefer a drop keel, or the Investigator 563 style, which has internal ballast in a stub keel, and a simple, lightweight, swing centreboard.

valo

NSW

309 posts

18 Mar 2019 6:42pm

Thanks for all the comments.
I would love to make an offer on this. But the Sailing Gods have said no.
As far as chocking it on the hard. A mate has an Adams 13 with a manual lifting keel.
I have never heard him complain abut it in all the years he has had it. So I am guessing it hasn't been a problem for him.

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