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Hartley Nationals in Lake Mac

Created by valo valo  > 9 months ago, 3 Jan 2020
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valo
valo

NSW

309 posts

3 Jan 2020 4:37pm
The Hartley Nationals have been on in lake Macquarie the last week.
I have been watching a little of the racing and I am surprised at their speed!
Some nice, well cared for boats amongst the group.

r13
r13

r13

NSW

1714 posts

3 Jan 2020 5:29pm
Richard Hartley designed these in 1959 and for sure should be given far more kudos among the top echelons of Kiwi designers, than he gets. So the 60 year anniversary of the class. They will be going strong for at least another 60.
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

3 Jan 2020 6:09pm
Even the old, heavy original boats sail well. These boats at the Nationals look like the original boats but they are far from the original concept. More of a racing dinghy with a lid than trailer sailer.
warwickl
warwickl

NSW

2357 posts

3 Jan 2020 6:52pm
Thanks for the advice .
All boats here are the same colour.
Sadly it did not stop a theft/break in on some of our boats.
r13
r13

r13

NSW

1714 posts

3 Jan 2020 9:18pm
Cripes what was the question? Valo posted a very complimentary note to boost the TS16 class. I responded in kind. I am not aware that the class rules have changed since the original design. Please can someone from the Drummoyne fleet respond factually. Sorry about the break in Warwick trust this can be denied going fwd. We are not talking about a Noelex 30 trailer sailer here - we are talking about an entry class boat for inland waters to give good sailing and calm condition overnighting.
r13
r13

r13

NSW

1714 posts

3 Jan 2020 9:20pm
Cripes what was the question? Valo posted a very complimentary note to boost the TS16 class. I responded in kind. I am not aware that the class rules have changed since the original design. Please can someone from the Drummoyne fleet respond factually. Sorry about the break in Warwick trust this can be denied going fwd. We are not talking about a Noelex 30 trailer sailer here - we are talking about an entry class boat for inland waters to give good sailing and calm condition overnighting.
r13
r13

r13

NSW

1714 posts

3 Jan 2020 9:20pm
Cripes what was the question? Valo posted a very complimentary note to boost the TS16 class. I responded in kind. I am not aware that the class rules have changed since the original design. Please can someone from the Drummoyne fleet respond factually. Sorry about the break in Warwick trust this can be denied going fwd. We are not talking about a Noelex 30 trailer sailer here - we are talking about an entry class boat for inland waters to give good sailing and calm condition overnighting.
r13
r13

r13

NSW

1714 posts

3 Jan 2020 9:20pm
Cripes what was the question? Valo posted a very complimentary note to boost the TS16 class. I responded in kind. I am not aware that the class rules have changed since the original design. Please can someone from the Drummoyne fleet respond factually. Sorry about the break in Warwick trust this can be denied going fwd. We are not talking about a Noelex 30 trailer sailer here - we are talking about an entry class boat for inland waters to give good sailing and calm condition overnighting.
LMY
LMY

LMY

NSW

203 posts

3 Jan 2020 10:37pm
I built a TS16, launched 1988. A lovely boat, great fun sailing.

Our boat was sail number 1421. The boat in the photo is sail number 538, so built well before 1988 but still sailing in nationals competitions . When we were sailing the association was doing a great job of maintaining the original design. At one stage the association was allowing a fibreglass hull, but maintaining the hull shape and with the same minimum mass.

I got all nostalgic a few years ago and had a quick look at building another. You could still buy plans for the wooden version, but I could not find much about the glass version.
southace
southace

SA

4794 posts

4 Jan 2020 3:28am
I re-built a H16 to race specks and raced the much heavier and older national champ boat for a number of years , minum weight is 350kg from memory mine was 357kg and the other boat was 365kg. A beautiful boat to sail.


woko
woko

NSW

1770 posts

4 Jan 2020 6:09am
I had 1180, a little heavy to campaign seriously but a fun little boat for sure
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