I was wandering around Kettering marina this morning and this looked nice

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/adams-31-motorsailer-superbly-built-exc-condition/217462

Any thoughts

Regards Don

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Donk107 said..
I was wandering around Kettering marina this morning and this looked nice

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/adams-31-motorsailer-superbly-built-exc-condition/217462

Any thoughts

Regards Don

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twodogs1969 said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/alden-ketch-malabar-x11-design-huge-price-reduction/215973

Nice boat and really nice boat

Love Wooden boats as long as they are other people's and l don't have to own and maintain one. I have booked the caravan on the ferry in January to go to the Wooden boat festival in Hobart. It's one event I have never been to, so I am really looking forward to it,

I've had a look at both those (from afar). Lovely, but also looks like a lovely lot of work.

Cheers

Bristol

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Jode5 said..
Love Wooden boats as long as they are other people's and l don't have to own and maintain one. I have booked the caravan on the ferry in January to go to the Wooden boat festival in Hobart. It's one event I have never been to, so I am really looking forward to it,

J, you might find it disappointing.
In the past it was great timber boats and a real boatie atmosphere.
Now it is many ways just another festival for the general population.
The boats the Committee now allow in are what the general public think a wooden boat should be not actually what are great wooden boats.
For me it just bull**** now.
So be warned.

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lydia said..

Jode5 said..
Love Wooden boats as long as they are other people's and l don't have to own and maintain one. I have booked the caravan on the ferry in January to go to the Wooden boat festival in Hobart. It's one event I have never been to, so I am really looking forward to it,

J, you might find it disappointing.
In the past it was great timber boats and a real boatie atmosphere.
Now it is many ways just another festival for the general population.
The boats the Committee now allow in are what the general public think a wooden boat should be not actually what are great wooden boats.
For me it just bull**** now.
So be warned.

Hi Lydia

I have to disagree with you on your critique of the Tassie wooden boat festival

I personally think it is great and I think the committee do a great job bringing it all together

I am interested in what you believe a great wooden boat is

I think that if anyone who is interested in boats is disappointed in the festival they are pretty hard to please

Regards Don

Don
With you up until about 2013 but after that, a big no.

I say that having put boats in the show a few times , it reached a high in 2009 and in the last few years gone backwards.

If you have some ugly ****box not well built with half the seams popping out but have some token square rigging then in you go.

A modern classic say 1970s cold moulded iconic design then sorry not what we are looking for.

I an not the only long term owner holding this view.

This is Riversong, and if I have this right this did not get a spot in 2015.
Alden Sportsfisherman
Buillt by Quilkeys
Still true to original drawings
Triple could moulded
Twin Gardners with variable pitch props
Owned by 3rd generation timber boat fanatic (I say that nicely as the family have quite a fleet)
Most possibly the best kept big timber boat inn Australia.
It went to Tas for summer anyway as it was a support boat for the Raid.

Don
You also need plenty of varnish!

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Donk107 said..
I was wandering around Kettering marina this morning and this looked nice

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/adams-31-motorsailer-superbly-built-exc-condition/217462

Any thoughts

Regards Don

Man there's a lot of work gone into that! Real value for under $100K

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Donk107 said..
I was wandering around Kettering marina this morning and this looked nice

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/adams-31-motorsailer-superbly-built-exc-condition/217462

Any thoughts

Regards Don

Man there's a lot of work gone into that! Real value for under $100K

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lydia said..
This is Riversong, and if I have this right this did not get a spot in 2015.
Alden Sportsfisherman
Buillt by Quilkeys
Still true to original drawings
Triple could moulded
Twin Gardners with variable pitch props
Owned by 3rd generation timber boat fanatic (I say that nicely as the family have quite a fleet)
Most possibly the best kept big timber boat inn Australia.
It went to Tas for summer anyway as it was a support boat for the Raid.

Hard to figure out how that would not be a classic wooden boat Lydia

Hi, Lydia.

Sorry to hear that you are not pleased with the MyState Australian Wooden Boat Festival. We do try to make the event appealing to wooden boat owners and also to a wider audience, who support it enthusiastically. We are heavily over-subscribed every year, which means that some boat owners will be understandably disappointed that they are not offered a berth. Our selection panel works hard to make the display of wooden boats in the harbour interesting, varied and refreshed for each festival. We are a free public event, supported by 435 volunteers and we do our best.

Plenty of not very special boats in the bottom pic, which demonstrates my point.
And many not that well maintained particularly some of the local Hobart ****ters that seem to get a spot year after year.
As does your comments about the wider public audience.
You have lost a lot of your good will with owners especially interstate owners over the last 6 years.
I will not be back even I have a boat, many sailing visitors as opposed to the general public visitors would find quite interesting.
And the boat will be in Tasmania for summer.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Defiance-the-original?page=1

So again the point is that it has become a big festival for the general public and gone away from being a festival about good wooden boats!

Or maybe it's actually healthier for the sport to show off the fact that not every wooden boat has to be enormously expensive to run, in both time and money?

What's wrong with having "**ters" as you call them, if one is trying to maintain the image and popularity of wooden boat ownership? Why not show people that you can have a wooden boat and still use it regularly without spending a lifetime fairing the hull and licking the bilges clean?

And why abuse people's boats by calling them "**ters"? I've sailed with people who would have called your boats "**ters" and would have called you merely a "punter" as far as sailing results go. Is that a good thing? Why not respect other people and the boats they love?

I understand that Tom Slingsby has told young sailors who call other boats "**ters" that they will be out of the programme if they use that term for some other person's pride and joy. That's a damn good attitude from a fine sailor and person.

Chris, the boats I am referring to are not well maintained, not well used and not that special by way of design, construction or history.
There many boats that do match that criteria.
That is my point.
Lastly, I am not talking shinny ****ter show boats here, good boats must be used and not just trailed from one show to another.

i tend to agree with lydia to a certain amount when we took our boat to Hobart the amount of obsticals put in our way was phenomenal and no confirmation till December as we were leaving from qld that didn't leave much time to organize crew and logistics being told we have to make sure your boat is good enough . Then to arrive and see vessels that should not have made the passage across the derwent it seemed a bit bizarre . never the less i will be still going down this year as i love meeting up with friends and having a look around though not with pagan but the wooden dingy on the roof of the ute and i wont bother with fielding a display as its just to hard for non locals

So MAWBF you should start listening, it your loss.
And Boty has an iconic wooden boat that is still raced and cruised regularly and the best built and maintained of it's class.
Only Cherana (2 time Hobart winner) would be more famous.
And right at the moment the two are lying side by side.
Someone should get a pic of that.

Well against my better judgment and mainly because my plumber (who a shark fisherman for years) said he and two mates are going to the Festival I have tonight sent off an Expression of Interest for Defiance for Festival.
So after saying in the earlier posts I would not be back the gauntlet has been thrown down.

Hopefully, MAWBF 2019 might read BOTY's comments

Thee and boty are obviously incurable.

Cisco, I am not sure it a case of we would not have it any other way or we don't know any better
Cheers

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cisco said..
Thee and boty are obviously incurable.

its a disease im happy to have