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Bundeenabuoy > 9 months ago, 13 Jun 2019

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

13 Jun 2019 5:36am

Currently Cat 7, and a daysailor
What would be my limitations regarding offshore racing?
Would I have to make any structural changes

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jutson-40-race-yacht-sports-yacht/231056

boty

QLD

685 posts

13 Jun 2019 7:51am

looks great value for money if going offshore cockpit volume will be an issue with companion way low and would need to check volume against drain sizes check blue book also check bilge system

Chris249

357 posts

13 Jun 2019 8:52am

I don't like to say it publicly, but it's never seemed to go as well as it should. For example, in recent twilights it's handicapped slower than Cavalier 350s

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

13 Jun 2019 12:33pm

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Chris249 said..
I don't like to say it publicly, but it's never seemed to go as well as it should. For example, in recent twilights it's handicapped slower than Cavalier 350s

Good of you to say so
I thought the same, but I have a hunch it may have been the crew.

Chris249

357 posts

13 Jun 2019 1:08pm

That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

14 Jun 2019 6:11am

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Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.

I am taking on board what you are saying.
I see Akela won its race (Div 1 Spin) in the 1978 Australia Day Regatta?

Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

14 Jun 2019 7:57am

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Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.

I am taking on board what you are saying.
I see Akela won its race (Div 1 Spin) in the 1978 Australia Day Regatta?

Launched in 1991!

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

14 Jun 2019 10:47am

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Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.

I am taking on board what you are saying.
I see Akela won its race (Div 1 Spin) in the 1978 Australia Day Regatta?

Launched in 1991!

Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.

fishmonkey

NSW

494 posts

14 Jun 2019 12:05pm

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Bundeenabuoy said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.

I see Akela won its race (Div 1 Spin) in the 1978 Australia Day Regatta?

Launched in 1991!

Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?

it would make it a bit of a feat winning a race in 1978!

Cav30

NSW

121 posts

14 Jun 2019 1:18pm

I've seen this boat at CYC and often wondered if engulfed in large wave where all the water would go. The cockpit looks low in the water. Is there drainage?

My 2c worth
Ed

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

14 Jun 2019 3:45pm

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fishmonkey said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.

I see Akela won its race (Div 1 Spin) in the 1978 Australia Day Regatta?

Launched in 1991!

Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?

it would make it a bit of a feat winning a race in 1978!

2018, sorry

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

14 Jun 2019 3:47pm

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Cav30 said..
I've seen this boat at CYC and often wondered if engulfed in large wave where all the water would go. The cockpit looks low in the water. Is there drainage?

My 2c worth
Ed

It does have four electric and two manual bilge pumps

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

14 Jun 2019 4:01pm

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Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.

In last years CYCA Winter Series, Akela came fourth, four points behind the winner Scarlet O'hara, so I am thinking with a good crew they may do well?

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

14 Jun 2019 4:08pm

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Cav30 said..
I've seen this boat at CYC and often wondered if engulfed in large wave where all the water would go. The cockpit looks low in the water. Is there drainage?

My 2c worth
Ed

I haven't considered what upgrades would be necessary to race offshore?
Any ideas?

troubadour

NSW

334 posts

14 Jun 2019 4:16pm

A lot?? That cockpit is an issue.

Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

14 Jun 2019 5:48pm

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Bundeenabuoy said..

Launched in 1991!

Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.

Certainly a lot of boat for the money and I reckon it would be the ideal harbour racer. If I had a crew and wanted to race offshore I would look at something like this that's designed for offshore racing with a crew.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-40-huge-potential-at-a-bargain-price/232292

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

14 Jun 2019 7:02pm

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Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Launched in 1991!

Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.

I think the best you have ever found for us, and fast too.

SandS

VIC

5904 posts

14 Jun 2019 7:11pm

Does the cockpit self drain ? If yes i think the blue blue book has a ratio for size of drain holes compared to cockpit volume . I would **** my pants if a green one landed in that cockpit .
great buy to race in the harbor
Ramona is right the dubois is the go for a budget off shore racer / and double as short term a cruiser

Jethrow

NSW

1275 posts

14 Jun 2019 7:21pm

Yeah, even with cockpit drains the appropriate size, there's also rules about how low the companionway can be and accessing the cabin from inside and out to consider.

Bananabender

QLD

1610 posts

14 Jun 2019 7:25pm

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Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Launched in 1991!

Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.

Last time I saw her she was BLACK .

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

14 Jun 2019 7:37pm

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SandS said..
Does the cockpit self drain ? If yes i think the blue blue book has a ratio for size of drain holes compared to cockpit volume . I would **** my pants if a green one landed in that cockpit .
great buy to race in the harbor
Ramona is right the dubois is the go for a budget off shore racer / and double as short term a cruiser

Harbour racing is mostly what I plan to do with it.
The rest was speculation.

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

14 Jun 2019 7:37pm

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Bananabender said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Launched in 1991!

Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.

Last time I saw her she was BLACK .

In Queensland?

Bananabender

QLD

1610 posts

14 Jun 2019 8:08pm

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Bundeenabuoy said..

Bananabender said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Launched in 1991!

Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.

Last time I saw her she was BLACK .

In Queensland?

No mate ,Melb. I was on her just after her launching . Funny could have sworn timber mouldings below were laminated but see that she was totally stripped inside and out and repainted a few years back.
www.sail-world.com/Australia/Festival-of-Sails--Southern-Black-Magic-heading-to-Geelong/-128894

All@Sea

TAS

233 posts

14 Jun 2019 8:53pm

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Bananabender said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Launched in 1991!

Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.

Last time I saw her she was BLACK .

It isn't (or doesn't feel like) that long since she was painted. They stripped her right back for a refurb, and after much deliberation decided that she looked better in white. Powerful boat, especially upwind, with about the same performance +/- as a Northshore 38. Well cared for, with good (from what I've seen racing against her) sails.

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

15 Jun 2019 1:23pm

Thank you for all that info
Much appreciated

Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

15 Jun 2019 1:25pm

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Bananabender said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Bananabender said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Launched in 1991!

Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.

Last time I saw her she was BLACK .

In Queensland?

Thats great
Thank you
Much appreciated

rumblefish

TAS

824 posts

15 Jun 2019 4:40pm

Two things...

IMHO Jutson designed more dogs than not, the boat would want a pretty hot racing record for me to look at seriously!
Secondly, if you'd like me to have a closer look at the Dubuios 40, PM me :))

Donk107

TAS

2446 posts

15 Jun 2019 5:28pm

How about this for harbour racing in Sydney
www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/fred-barrett-richardson-11m-a-real-weapon-performance-plus/230068
Built in 2015 and the build and fit out cost would far exceed the asking price and definitely no issues with cockpit drains

Regards Don

Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

15 Jun 2019 5:50pm

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Donk107 said..
How about this for harbour racing in Sydney
www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/fred-barrett-richardson-11m-a-real-weapon-performance-plus/230068
Built in 2015 and the build and fit out cost would far exceed the asking price and definitely no issues with cockpit drains

Regards Don

Shame it's so ugly! Parked next to that Defiance does not help either.

Donk107

TAS

2446 posts

15 Jun 2019 6:19pm

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Ramona said..

Shame it's so ugly! Parked next to that Defiance does not help either.

Hi Ramona

In the flesh i wouldn't call it ugly just different

Regards Don

Chris 249

NSW

3531 posts

15 Jun 2019 6:26pm

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Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.

In last years CYCA Winter Series, Akela came fourth, four points behind the winner Scarlet O'hara, so I am thinking with a good crew they may do well?

Yes but that's on arbitrary handicap. It has zero relationship to being a fast boat or well sailed , just as I could beat tiger woods if gave me a big enough handicap but it would not show that I was a better player or had good clubs. It's a simple system in which a boat or crews quality are irrelevant

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