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replace stolen tag

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Created by CliveW > 9 months ago, 17 Nov 2005
CliveW
QLD, 6 posts
17 Nov 2005 12:35PM
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Who do i contact about replacing my tag which was attached to my harness when it got nicked?

Cheers,

Clive

hoop
1979 posts
19 Nov 2005 10:12AM
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Nicked ? or carelessly left in car park ?

jan
WA, 1119 posts
19 Nov 2005 11:08AM
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does it matter, he just needs a new tag?

gls
WA, 284 posts
20 Nov 2005 9:14AM
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Clive, contact the WAKSA Treasurer Emma Bell. treasurer@waksa.org.au
Regards
Graeme

CliveW
QLD, 6 posts
22 Nov 2005 9:19AM
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thanks for that.

CliveW
QLD, 6 posts
5 Dec 2005 9:30AM
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Tag arrived on Friday. Thanks again.

Clive

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
7 Jan 2006 12:04AM
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What is the tag for ?
What does it do ?

Alex - WAKSA
WA, 47 posts
7 Jan 2006 9:13PM
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Hi Waveslave,

The tag is worn by kiters (normally on the harness) and identifies them as WAKSA/AKSA members.

There are several locations across Australia where kiting is only allowed by those with AKSA membership/insurance. Rangers/Calm can quickly identify any kiters that should not be kiting at a location if they are not wearing a tag and take appropriate action.

For example, Cottesloe now requires that all kiters are WAKSA/AKSA members and wear their tags at all times when kiting there. Local kiters worked hard to prevent a ban being placed on Cottesloe by the council and this was one of the compromises that was made.

As the number of kiters increases we may see more local councils requiring that kiters have insurance, either through WAKSA/AKSA or another approved company.

Hope this explains everything.

Cheers

Alex
WAKSA

axel
20 posts
9 Mar 2006 7:18PM
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Have we Australians really sunk that low as a society, that we need insurance by law to be able to kite in a publicly owned area?

If I drive on a public road without insurance (which incidently is my choice to either obtain or not) and I cause an accident then the other party is well within their rights to sue me. I should accept to take responsibitiy for any consequences that my actions cause, this includes whether or not I want to assume the risk of being sued or pass that risk to a suitable company (or association) for a premium. This should not be an issue which is either directly or indirectly decided by some frigging council by-law.



puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
26 Mar 2006 1:11PM
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quote:
Originally posted by axel
If I drive on a public road without insurance (which incidently is my choice to either obtain or not)

Actually axel it is not your choice - you cannot drive on a public road without insurance (unless you choose to drive an unregistered car). The compulsory insurance component of car reg. has been around since about year dot. And justifiably so - we all deserve the right to compensation, replacement income etc if we are mangled & mutilated by some out of control vehicle. Same should apply to out of control kites. They can be just as lethal.
Perhaps if enough irresponsible people 'choose' not to respect the rights of the public by opting for optional insurance we will see kites carrying 'compulsory' insurance added into the purchase price.
You can bet your life that any compulsory system will cost you a hell of a lot more than the current waksa/aksa option.

Its just plain common sense. You clean me up on the beach one day. Where am I left for the rest of my incapacitated life once the funds from the sale of your house & car & everything else you own have only managed to cover part of my medical bills?
I dont want to have try to exist on a meagre 25% garnishee order on your lifes income - even if you are willing to gamble it that way.
The WAKSA/AKSA option is so much cheaper than any other option.

axel
20 posts
27 Mar 2006 6:58PM
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Sorry mate, good point. Where do I get my registration and insurance for my windsurfer/surfski/body board/pushbike/skateboard/rollerskates in case I run into someone and cause them injury.

My point is where does it end with this litigation fearing, cotton wool wrapped nanny society that unfortunately Australia is becoming.

kiterdan
WA, 680 posts
27 Mar 2006 10:39PM
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Put it this way..
if you stuff up and seriously hurt, if not kill, someone, then you do not only risk yourself the finacial burden of a lawsuit or even manslaughter (could happen?) but chances are you will get kiting banned for the rest of us. The consequences dont just affect the kiter and the injured party, but the rest of us.

I thought the exact same way as you until I saw 3 people get taken out at Leighton by a beginner. I dont want to be responsible for jeopardizing a kiting location, nor do I want to have to pay the medical bills if something happened.

More chance of us getting banned due to an injury than someone on a bike..we're a minority.

It sucks but I would rather pay $60 than pay $100 000 payout.

gls
WA, 284 posts
28 Mar 2006 11:39PM
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Hi Axel
Go to www.waksa.org.au and there's a section there to download the form which you have to sign and send in. You can send a cheque or just direct deposit the $60 into the bank account listed on the form.
Regards
Graeme Speak
WAKSA Secretary

axel
20 posts
1 Apr 2006 1:40PM
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G'day everyone,

Firstly may I say I am about to join the KBV/AKSA for amongst other things liability insurance. I am certainly not, nor as it may have been misunderstood by my comments have ever been against ASKA or the state associations. They provide a valuable service and representation to our sport.

I guess my beef, and maybe this was not the forum to express it, is about what I see as the unfortunate nannyfication of our society, where everything must be controlled by someone in order to protect us (or more to the point, the purse strings of our councils) from ourselves. Whether this be kitesurfing, or people bodysurfing onto a sandbar. I have however, unfortunately come to the reluctant conclusion through the reading of your repliies and the subsequent research and ponderance that in a so call civilised society that this may be an inevitible evolution.

Two points I would like to make though. Kiterdan: You mentioned that you made a 'choice' to join WAKSA after witnessing a beginner take out some spectators, this is the point I was making all along, and 2: The raw statistics on injuries (especially to bystanders) caused by kiting is particularly difficult to obtain, but has been estimated to pale into insignificance in comparison with bicycles for example. I know there are many more cyclists out there but when calculating a total cost to society... See the excellent database compiled by Rick Iossi http://www.purjelautaliitto.fi/kite/ohjeet/docs/1b._KitesurfingSafetyInformationYear2002-Vers._9_12_02.pdf

Thankyou to all who replied, thats whats great about these forums, they promote discussion and thought, and thats what its all about, education, not regulation.

Cheers, Axel.

dave......
WA, 2119 posts
22 Aug 2006 9:47PM
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actually puppetonastring we are able to drive uninsured cars in WA..... our insurance is for 3rd party only to injury of persons, not to their car, property or anything else. Try surfing at triggs point in the middle of summer on a good day..... theres somewhere where you need insurance.... the over litigation and regulation in australia is ****ing the country up.....
the minority who disregard the rules anyway **** it up for the rest of us.....



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