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Rider: Weight,Level : 72kg intermediate 5'5" whip strapless ,134 nobile 50/50
Style: Freeriding, Surf, Wake, Freestyle
Weather: 15-30 cross on , flat water unhooked
Build Quality: ?/10
Satisfaction: ?/10
Disclosure: pay for gear
My Comments:
Can anyone shed some light how the neo goes in flat water hav read plenty about it in waves but just like to hear from people using them ive been iusing 2013 vegas was thinking of changing to the 4 line setup for ease of use .. hav tried the dice but didnt click with me i really am stuck between rpm or neo? Any sugestions thanks
It was a bit light for the dice 10 i tried also was using the 5 line bar cant remember if the fifth was taunt com to think it may hav been being used to my vegas it probably was didnt think at the time but it could of been choking it managed to make it back stall a bit and kept having to reach for som trim . Does it usually need some trim to unhook ? hoped on to the 10 rpm after that and it just felt more me? I guess but havent used the rpm in the surf . Had a quick go on a 7neo the other day it was already out we just did a kite swap fekt really good too but didnt get a clost look on the ground
Azza the dice needs to be on a four line bar with 4 lines. We rode it for a number of days of both bars and the difference is chalk and cheese. Plus the fifth should not be taught. Don't ask me why but the bottom end was markedly better, jumped better, turned better, unhooked better just did everything better.
Stall and the dice is an oxymoron. It doesn't exist. Unhook no need to adjust the trim whatsoever. It is one of the outstanding features of this kite.
kim rides the neo as he is 100 percent on a surfboard. The neo is a superb wave kite, less pull when looping down the line. Both drift really well and I felt the dice was slightly more reactive and quicker (Kim's words that I tested out when I got in one recently).
Rpm is a bloody beautiful kite as well but don't think for a moment it will touch the dices sides in serious waves. It won't. Both are good unhooked reckon the rpm would give you slightly more slack. Dice will out jump and out glide the rpm a shortcoming of this kite. But for bar feel it is an awesome wing. Straight away you feel at home on the rpm. But there are differences that you need to be aware of.
Have another go on 4 lines on the factory setting and I guarantee you you will be watching if fly forward pulled all the way in (hence why I shortened my back lines). They are back at factory now with front line stretch.
As I said damn looking at your board quiver and coming from a Vegas Christ it was like the designers were thinking of your particularly.
'Guys lets get the Vegas and install all the neo qualities in it'. try it again and properly this time on a 4 line bar considering that's your overall intention to get on 4 lines right.
So Eppo how much are North paying you? Dice is not a freestylers kite, azza ask the good freestyle riders, the Dice gives no slack time, stick with Vegas if freestyle is your thing, Neo good for waves? maybe, slow and underpowered from my experience with it, as i have said before heaps of bull on kite reviews, mostly because guys get a good deal or are after one, lets get some honesty here, kites are a big investment for most of us.
I will ignore the first question, that's absurd. Maybe slingshot and paying me as well? And naish if you read my last question. That's right they are all paying me!! Like hell they are!
Just passing on what we've found after riding the kite for 6 months.
Asked for a freestylers kite? He asked about the freestyle potential of the neo on flat water but his board quiver and choice of kite in question, including his interest in the rpm points to a kite that also works in the surf
Ignoring your swipe (which is uncalled for and utter BS by the way) there is no doubt that if you want true slackness yeh stick with the Vegas for sure.
Neo was slow and underpowered maybe to you but I've watched kim ride that kite that would tear an large asshole in most kiters I've watched. And I've watched a lot! But that's in waves. Not enough C in that arc to really cross over to freestyle although the good guys still make it work. That's why they took the lessons from the neo and combined them with the Vegas , but yeh won't slack as well.
But I don't think that is what he's asking.
Azza also consider a kite like the park that is another very good kite in the realm you are considering. I really liked all three and each has there forte and weakness.
Hi Azza,
Try the Dice again on north bar and 24m lines. If it still doesn't click for you then demo the Evo...one of those two should suit...