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Ozone Sport II vs Edge II - pros and cons? 11m

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Created by ezza > 9 months ago, 21 Jan 2009
ezza
NSW, 561 posts
22 Jan 2009 12:54AM
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Beginner rider, learnt on 9m REV and looking to add a slightly larger kite to my quiver. $$ are a factor and there are a couple of these Ozone kites available ex-demo now for a reasonable price.

Any advice much appreciated.

Kitehard
WA, 2782 posts
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21 Jan 2009 11:29PM
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Hi Ezza,

The Sport is more plug and play. Very quick, quite user friendly and has performance to burn whilst still maintaining stability. They are great for beginner to Advanced, boost well and are suitable for all conditions. Most versatile of the three kites in the series.

The Edge is the big boosting, speed machine. Still easy enough to fly for a beginner, but a beginner will not get the performance out of them for a while. The Edges wor best when REALLY powered up. I love the Edge 11m in 28-34 knots. In that wind speed you can jump into orbit!

Both kites are excellent and great fun!

Good winds,

common 2868
26 posts
22 Jan 2009 9:40PM
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C'mon kitehard you are more experienced than that. Don't tell peeps BS about jumping into orbit on 30 knt wind with 11 m Edge. As much as powerful Edge is there no way in the whole wide world you will jump high on that wind....well at least not as high as you would on smaller kite - like 7 m Edge for example. Don't want to go too deep but I am sure you will agree :)

Ezza if price is an issue last year Ozone models are definitely the way to go. You will feel instant difference between the way kite responds to you and the way you progress. Truly there is no other kite on the market that will forgive as much as it has to give. Edge will blow your mind with first jump :)))

23 Jan 2009 12:08AM
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common 2868 said...

C'mon kitehard you are more experienced than that. Don't tell peeps BS about jumping into orbit on 30 knt wind with 11 m Edge. As much as powerful Edge is there no way in the whole wide world you will jump high on that wind....well at least not as high as you would on smaller kite - like 7 m Edge for example. Don't want to go too deep but I am sure you will agree :)

Ezza if price is an issue last year Ozone models are definitely the way to go. You will feel instant difference between the way kite responds to you and the way you progress. Truly there is no other kite on the market that will forgive as much as it has to give. Edge will blow your mind with first jump :)))




Errr its weight related 2868, Darren is not a small guy, and he has serious skills when it comes to kitesurfing. Seen him kite lately?Ever?
If he says he jumps big in 30 knots on an 11M EdgeII, beleive it!!!
I remember riding beside Darren several years ago at Dolls he was on some sort of Airush kite, might have been an 11.5 Lift, wind was 25-30 and from my perspective he jumped well over 30' high maybe as much as 40+ feet, he was a speck in the sky and was looking back and down at me laughing, he is cool at altitude, maybe pick on someone else 2868.
:-)

For super large jumps on the 7M EdgeII you need well over 30 knots, more like 40! And you better know what you are doing that thing can spank even experienced kiters, just ask Graham Snowdon.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

Kitehard
WA, 2782 posts
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22 Jan 2009 11:29PM
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Hey common 2868,

Come on along to Kitestock next month, if it gets really windy, I'll gladly show you massive boosting on an Edge 11m 08 or 09.

I won last years big air comp at Kitestock on a 13m Edge in 25 knots. Biggest most consistent jumps with crazy hangtime. The kites speak for themselves when ridden by someone who knows how to get the best out of them.

Cheers,

common 2868
26 posts
23 Jan 2009 8:47AM
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I am sure it is weight related :) how else wopuld you expect someone to fly 11m edge on 30 knt wind :) (talking about Cole here heheheh)

Kids kids I am mearly making remark upon a fact that (and we are talking not only semantics here) that big kites (situation when both riders are same weight let's be precise then) will not go higher that a small on same wind. No blo_ody way - ever.
What big kite has more than the small one?

and No KP here I am going to seriously argue. 7M does not require biig power to pull you high. You are experienced enough to remember what the jump is all about when you ride on a C shape. Apply the same technique here and = I am talking big air :) Besides - I am not picking KP

One thing is certain = Bigger kite + massive wind = more hangtime (but that is it)

but please go on and keep suggesting to beginners to get out there and try 11 m edge on 30knt wind heheheheh....you know monkey see monkey does thing.

@Kitehard...mate I would love to have a decent kite session with you on Kitestock but being a common (far from regular or ordinary) 2868 my arse is here in NSW. The kingdom of light winds and all other 2868's.

rusty7
QLD, 504 posts
23 Jan 2009 12:31PM
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2868 .... I don't know kitehard nor have i ever kited with him but from personal experience I can tell you he is 100% correct on the boost ability of the 11m. We had a epic session in 30 plus last weekend and my 08 11m edge was definitely boosting huge and the hang was massive. Difficult to comment if you haven't tried it.
You are also correct in that small kites jump very high also but the hang time is nowhere as long. I think the biggest boosting kite i have ever flown was my old 07 10m north Rhino. I weigh in at 95kgs these days so yes a bit weight helps also.

common 2868
26 posts
23 Jan 2009 12:48PM
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Rusty you singing to my hear t now mate :)))) Rhino 10m. I am Ozone dude by nature and choice but I Rhino 06 10m was the sweetest little machine ever not as sweet as X4 but....back to the point.

I am just being a smart asre here guys. Reason is - bigger kite have more? - canopy and it is bigger hence the drag it creates will be much bigger than smaller kite + it moves faster through the wind window which adds apparent wind effect. Conditions. Two riders -same wind, same weight same technique on take of.

Hence my little argument - providing Kitehard has same experience as I have and he is on 11 and I am on 7 ---- something tells me that I will fly higher than him. And yes I have tested it - thank you. I am not being a smart arse only with words.

I am not arguing nobodys abilities - only Physics :)



24 Jan 2009 5:31PM
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common 2868 said...

I am sure it is weight related :) how else wopuld you expect someone to fly 11m edge on 30 knt wind :) (talking about Cole here heheheh)

Kids kids I am mearly making remark upon a fact that (and we are talking not only semantics here) that big kites (situation when both riders are same weight let's be precise then) will not go higher that a small on same wind. No blo_ody way - ever.
What big kite has more than the small one?

and No KP here I am going to seriously argue. 7M does not require biig power to pull you high. You are experienced enough to remember what the jump is all about when you ride on a C shape. Apply the same technique here and = I am talking big air :) Besides - I am not picking KP

One thing is certain = Bigger kite + massive wind = more hangtime (but that is it)

but please go on and keep suggesting to beginners to get out there and try 11 m edge on 30knt wind heheheheh....you know monkey see monkey does thing.

@Kitehard...mate I would love to have a decent kite session with you on Kitestock but being a common (far from regular or ordinary) 2868 my arse is here in NSW. The kingdom of light winds and all other 2868's.




Ok Common 2868, so it seems you understand some of the physics involved in boosting and kiting, however making generalised assumptions or generalisations about all kites based on our own limited experiences leads to innaccurate, or wrong theories.

In general an experienced kiter on an 8-11M c or bow kite will jump highest simply because those sizes are the optimum when it comes to highest lift factor and lowest drag factor.

However some smaller sized kites will not jump as high as some bigger sized kites, for a variety of reasons, mostly to do with lift and drag ratio though.

From my observations the Ozone Edge 11M has amazing boost height ability, for an 11M kite, and in the same wind, same rider, the 11M will outboost the 7M, but in stronger winds the 7M will outboost the 7M, ok?

No-one recommended newbies go out and do this. Read Kitehards first reply to the thread starter.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve



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