Saw this about the Naish Fly
Target: Designed for fun in light to marginal wind conditions.
The Fly goes in virtually no wind and is incredibly fun to ride. Its exceptionally light weight is primarily the result of removing the center strut. In doing this, the center section of the canopy performs like a spinnaker and generates incredible power in light wind.
The Fly uses the Park's proven easy-handling design, which gives it superior turning ability, but it incorporates more overall sweep, which helps the Fly relaunch in marginal wind conditions.
Design Characteristics:
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The power of an 18 with the turning of a 12 
* Exceptionally lightweight
* Based on the proven Park platform
* Two strut design
* Amazing low-end
* Superior water relaunch in light winds
* Includes 10m extension lines
Sounds 'superfly' Hey, because of two strut design, it pumps up like a 6 too... 
They should use that other term also... How about, "when flyin on the Fly, you're gonna be 'well lit' 
Instead of bagging a kite you probably haven't flown, why don't you ask to see if someone has flown it yet and if what Naish say is true!!
It might prove to be a viable alternative to taking my mum down to the local (she has a flatulence problem ,but there is an upside ) as a light wind weapon
want a kite that turns like a 6 (because it is a 6) and has the power of an 18? thats easy you need a C-Quad.
doesn't have any depower or water relaunch... mere details.
kite design vs marketing............
Note quite sure what the answer is to the original question posted by I'm happy to chip in my 2CW.
Im an old and crusty sailboarder that converted to kites around 3 yrs ago and have tried a range of different kite over that time (C kites - learnt on one (fun) Arcs, bows and now hybrids).
I recently replaced my bandit3 13 m with a 12 Griffen Argo 13.5 and its missing its middle strut - and it simply looked odd when I first flew it.
After a few sessions I am rapped with the 'loss of a strut' - nice kite that does every thing that i want and recently on a challenging session ( 8 to 22 knots) it even got me back to the beach when the wind just dropped out - I couldnt believe that it would stay airborne given i couldnt even feel the wind on my face. If these designers can find a way to make a kite do what its suposed to do and not compromise its performance - well WOW.
My experience is that the 13.5M argo ( with its missing rib - does that make it a girl?? ha ha) has seriously got something going for it - so i guess the Nash Fly could be the same - ????
Big calls by Naish ? trying is the only way to really find out!! - and i have never flown a Naish so I know I should'nt even be here LOL
Yes I must admit it turns quite well and I have only flown it in sub 5knot stuff (static)
All claims aside we have one here in Brisbane at the moment if anybody wants to try it out.
Jas
Funniest thread I have seen yet. I saw some kid flying one the last time I kited at my local, now wish I had asked for a demo. I was too busy grovelling back upwind for waves to watch how he was doing, if I am not mistaken he went off downwind. I like the idea of a kite that is getting upwind better and floats like a balloon in holes..... If it go's tightly down the line and doesn't go berzerk doing a loop and doesn't wad up in a twist when it gets dropped in the surf and doesn't starting jelly-fishing once OP then fine, I want to try one. Yeah maybe they just got a bit carried away writing the promo after gulping down several cans of Redbull. If nothing else it must be fun for down-winders in marginal wind shadow conditions. What if it does what they claim?
also there is footage on the onshore side, where it was waist deep and no seaweed. there were no whitecaps anywhere that day, i was almost not going to pump up because you couldnt really feel the wind at all, but i had the new kite so thought i should try it, and turned out to be a sick session!
So are they saying the Naish 12 metre performs the same as this 18? Isn't that a reflection of their 12?
I tried it yesterday. Thanks Jason. I was very impressed with its turning speed and it has the best low end of any light wind inflatable kite I've tried.
G'day all,
I found it interesting that Naish have said that the new Naish Fly 15m has the power of an 18m, and turns like a 12m. Over a weekend recently I got to test the Fly and put it head to head against a little list of proven light wind kites. We had on hand Dyno 18m, Dyno 16m, and Ozone Edge 17m.
First interesting thing was the size of the kites, and as a quick test we layed the 18m at the bottom thinking it was the biggest then the 17m, 16m and the 15m last being the top one. Sure enough, the 18m was the longest but the mid section area (where you would think you get the power from) was not the biggest. The Naish Fly was clearly larger than the 18m, up until the last quater strut where the 18m just came out, and if you think about it, not really doing much for lift in this area.
We pumped up the kites and shuffled them about and no matter which way we put them, the Fly was bigger, with about 4 or 5 inches more canopy on the trailing edge, up to the last quater strut panel, the Fly again was bigger.
The Fly has has a huge tip and it appears that the turning/steering tow point is way out further than all of the other kites so I would say this is the reason it can turn faster, hence turns like a 12m which it did in our flying test.
But the true test for me was the flying test and although the Fly is a great kite, for my heavy arse (ass) the Dyno 18m is the clear winner for power, 17m Edge next then the Dyno 16m and you can imagine, the sizes would probably be a reason for this. The most glaring difference was the turning speed and the upwind wasn't as good as the high aspect kites. The power of the Fly was good, just not as good as the others and keep in mind, I am heavy.
Turning speed the Fly was the winner but not by as much as you think with the Dyno 18m by far the slowest which isn't a bad thing at all, just the way it was designed (park and ride).
My son has riden the Fly for the past 3 days and is really enjoying it and loves it but then again he's into the flicky stuff and I figure this is where the Fly is aiming for, rather than the shear power and speed. I couldn't get it to go upwind near as well as my Dyno 18m, or jump it as well but it did loop nicer, but I could get the 16m Dyno to go just as quick in the loops but remember I'm a little different as I'm really heavy and tend to get different results than others as I can put alot of force into it when I need to. Infact, if the Ozone Edge isn't pumped to 8 or 9 psi, every kite loop the leading edge would fold, where as the Dyno's didn't show any folding or distortion.
I can't comment on upper wind range except that I know the Dyno's and Edge are fantastic, and all jump really well, just not sure on the Naish Fly.
Interesting indeed, power of an 18m, turns like a 12m is mostly true.
cheers for now,
Robbie :D
edit: Tested a Rebel 2010 16m and a Core XR 17m on different day but very similar winds and conditions and they felt they had less power but the Core had very similar turning speed.
