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Best Kahoona V3 sneak info

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Created by resaka > 9 months ago, 18 Jan 2011
resaka
WA, 28 posts
18 Jan 2011 7:35AM
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Hi guys,,the good people from Best Kiteboarding Australia just sended me some pics and details from the NEW KAHOONA V3 here a sneak info from what its new,,

New graphics,,
Faster turning speed,
New dacron materials.
New canopy ripstop,
Powerfull low end.
steering when depower,
almost same DNA from the v2,,,
more stable,,?more?
adjustable bar pressure
plug and play
auto relaunch

All this sounds good to me,,,for those who has a v2 im sure you guys love this kite,,think some v3 kahoonas are gona be for demo in kitestock,,finger cross we can get those kites for demo,,,will keep you guys updated as much as i can,,,
have a good windi days,,and get out and have some good fun,,,,

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
18 Jan 2011 11:09AM
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resaka said...

Hi guys,,the good people from Best Kiteboarding Australia just sended me some pics and details from the NEW KAHOONA V3 here a sneak info from what its new,,

New graphics,,
Faster turning speed,
New dacron materials.
New canopy ripstop,
Powerfull low end.
steering when depower,
almost same DNA from the v2,,,
more stable,,?more?
adjustable bar pressure
plug and play
auto relaunch

All this sounds good to me,,,for those who has a v2 im sure you guys love this kite,,think some v3 kahoonas are gona be for demo in kitestock,,finger cross we can get those kites for demo,,,will keep you guys updated as much as i can,,,
have a good windi days,,and get out and have some good fun,,,,


I'm pretty sure all of those would apply to every other kite on the market if there was a newer model so thats about as useful as meat to a vegetarian.

Pics is what people want.

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
18 Jan 2011 9:27AM
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This has got to be the worst promotion of what I know is a very good kite.

You are fired.

bjw
QLD, 3687 posts
18 Jan 2011 12:04PM
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Now designed for surf and flat water.
High low end and top end
Great for hooked or unhooked.
Strong and light
Hybrid bow C foil one pump kite

Adrenalin Rush
QLD, 876 posts
18 Jan 2011 12:41PM
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^^^^^^

Pretty much sums it up

Adrenalin Rush
QLD, 876 posts
18 Jan 2011 12:44PM
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Kitesplosh
VIC, 123 posts
18 Jan 2011 2:02PM
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bjw said...

Hybrid bow C foil one pump kite


Shame - I was looking for a delta hybrid bow C one pump RAM LEI kite.

Is it bomb proof?

bjw
QLD, 3687 posts
18 Jan 2011 2:23PM
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Kitesplosh -
Nah mate sorry - missile proof yes, but the bomb proof logo was recalled when the kite isn't either self launched or aided launched

eppo
WA, 9766 posts
18 Jan 2011 8:36PM
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Two things I hope they have improved...

1. The bar pressure is too great.

2. They are very twitchy at the top end when you need to sheet out suddenly. The outside panels flutter as turbulent wind seems to fly over it.

In their bottom to three quarter range the V2 is a pulling grunt machine that still allows floaty jumps and down line surfing (probably not as good as specific kites but does all quite well).

But the top end, (especially in gusty conditions) is average as these babies have to be flown with back line pressure always.

if they fix these two minor details i can't see myself buying another type of kite. Have loved using them this summer.

marno
WA, 218 posts
18 Jan 2011 8:50PM
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... and so I find myself in a pickle!!? Do I get a V2 now knowing that the V3's are not too far away, or wait and make do with my Switchy 3 until they are available.

If they aren't available until March or something I don't think I can wait, season is damn near almost over by then ......

What to do .... Advice anyone ????

reverse777
WA, 48 posts
18 Jan 2011 10:23PM
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I have the 7.5mt and 9.5mt V2. Also probaly around the same level just getting on to my surfboard. Really like the kites , lots of low end grunt and top end keeps going. I pefer lots of power and bar pressure doesn't really effect me. Regarding if you should buy V2 or V3. I would wait for the V3 . If you got the bucks and don't care go for the V2. But V3 has had minor improvements. Release date for thr Kahoonas I don't understand because its still winter in the USA and here its the end of the season.

Bo
WA, 192 posts
19 Jan 2011 1:36AM
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marno said...

... and so I find myself in a pickle!!? Do I get a V2 now knowing that the V3's are not too far away, or wait and make do with my Switchy 3 until they are available.

If they aren't available until March or something I don't think I can wait, season is damn near almost over by then ......

What to do .... Advice anyone ????


I reckon get the V2 now so you can still have some fun this season (wind permitting) and get a 9.5 V3 next October for light wind. You can use the same 45cm bar for both. The V2 is sweet and I have not noticed twitchyness in 30 knots. Bar pressure is a matter of personal taste as well as riding style, so maybe demo the 7.5 again just to make sure. Wind is good for it tomorrow.

BigBlock
53 posts
19 Jan 2011 6:24AM
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The price of these kites are great and if they really are that good i might upgrade my old REV. I got on the best site and they are selling discount tickets to get new gear anywhere in the world

$750 for a gold ticket will give you a $1000 off the price your local dealer gives you

and $150 silver ticket will get you $300 off your next purchase

You can buy as many of these tickets as you want and can redeem them any time, but can only use one per item. So seeing as you have to buy the bar separate with all of the best gear you could use a gold and a silver ticket to get a kite and bar and get $400 of the price, wow. That really makes it a cheap kite.

here is the link
http://www.bestkiteboarding.com/Best-Tickets

All i have to do is get a demo on one now, does anyone know if there is a dealer in Adelaide?

eppo
WA, 9766 posts
19 Jan 2011 9:56AM
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The V2 is sweet and I have not noticed twitchyness in 30 knots. Bar pressure is a matter of personal taste as well as riding style, so maybe demo the 7.5 again just to make sure. Wind is good for it tomorrow.



really, you haven't noticed the last panel on either side, luft in and out? With the kite shooting to the edge of the wind window, with that jerky pull thingy? It's is not jellyfishing, twitchy is the only word i can think of.

if Not what is your secret?

Don't get me wrong, for price, performance and versatility, I don't think anything can match it. I love this kite, was out on my 11.5m yesterday, in 15-16 knots powered up like nothing else (85kg), but I've owned and flown many kites, i really do think these two issues need to be addressed, especially the top end.

Bo
WA, 192 posts
19 Jan 2011 4:25PM
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eppo said...
if Not what is your secret?

Perhaps I've not had it out in *very* strong 30+ winds like you may have..

For me, if its gusty the Kahoona's wing tip pocket might 'shudder/flutter' slightly (especially when very depowered and flown overhead). Like any small kite (7.5) it will move in the direction of the gust. I may be wrong, but that is probably normal when one takes out any kite in such conditions.

I found myself agreeing with you that the kite should be kept on tight back lines when riding generally, else the kite depowers very effectively. On the other hand I found that slack steering lines prevent backstalling in very light conditions. That why I never uses the light winds setting knots.

marno
WA, 218 posts
19 Jan 2011 4:56PM
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Bo said...

marno said...

... and so I find myself in a pickle!!? Do I get a V2 now knowing that the V3's are not too far away, or wait and make do with my Switchy 3 until they are available.

If they aren't available until March or something I don't think I can wait, season is damn near almost over by then ......

What to do .... Advice anyone ????


I reckon get the V2 now so you can still have some fun this season (wind permitting) and get a 9.5 V3 next October for light wind. You can use the same 45cm bar for both. The V2 is sweet and I have not noticed twitchyness in 30 knots. Bar pressure is a matter of personal taste as well as riding style, so maybe demo the 7.5 again just to make sure. Wind is good for it tomorrow.


Decided to go ahead and get a V2 now, and then I might trade that in on a V3 next season if there is much difference etc. Can't wait to end of Feb or whenever I'd be abel to get my hands on a V3. Got one of the gold tickets, plus with trading my Switchy in it will work out not too bad at all. Cant' wait for the weekend now !!!

eppo
WA, 9766 posts
19 Jan 2011 5:01PM
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Bo said...

eppo said...
if Not what is your secret?

Perhaps I've not had it out in *very* strong 30+ winds like you may have..

For me, if its gusty the Kahoona's wing tip pocket might 'shudder/flutter' slightly (especially when very depowered and flown overhead). Like any small kite (7.5) it will move in the direction of the gust. I may be wrong, but that is probably normal when one takes out any kite in such conditions.

I found myself agreeing with you that the kite should be kept on tight back lines when riding generally, else the kite depowers very effectively. On the other hand I found that slack steering lines prevent backstalling in very light conditions. That why I never uses the light winds setting knots.





Funny I've found kite flies much smoother on the light wind setting, find if on the higher wind settings the shudder is much more pronounced. yeh mabey the shudder affects all kites at their top end. But I find it occurs say on the 7.5m around 24 to 25 knots plus. I put it on the light wind settings (closer to the kite) to reduce the shudder. do all kites do this then (this is my first delta-hybrid)

eppo
WA, 9766 posts
19 Jan 2011 5:02PM
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marno said...

Bo said...

marno said...

... and so I find myself in a pickle!!? Do I get a V2 now knowing that the V3's are not too far away, or wait and make do with my Switchy 3 until they are available.

If they aren't available until March or something I don't think I can wait, season is damn near almost over by then ......

What to do .... Advice anyone ????


I reckon get the V2 now so you can still have some fun this season (wind permitting) and get a 9.5 V3 next October for light wind. You can use the same 45cm bar for both. The V2 is sweet and I have not noticed twitchyness in 30 knots. Bar pressure is a matter of personal taste as well as riding style, so maybe demo the 7.5 again just to make sure. Wind is good for it tomorrow.


Decided to go ahead and get a V2 now, and then I might trade that in on a V3 next season if there is much difference etc. Can't wait to end of Feb or whenever I'd be abel to get my hands on a V3. Got one of the gold tickets, plus with trading my Switchy in it will work out not too bad at all. Cant' wait for the weekend now !!!





From what I'm reading I don't think there will be much difference at all. Different materials it seems but that's it.

Bo
WA, 192 posts
19 Jan 2011 9:50PM
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eppo said...
I've found kite flies much smoother on the light wind setting, find if on the higher wind settings the shudder is much more pronounced.

Yeah Eppo that makes sense! On the light wind knot you're tightening the back lines, essentially powering the kite more. You could achieve the same stability effect by flying the kite with the bar more pulled in (not letting it go quite so much). Or not de-powering it excessively at the strap. This is in strong wind.

At the other end of the scale, in very light winds all kites including the Kahoona tend to backstall if the back lines are very tight. Letting the kite breathe (letting the bar out/high wind knot) will prevent this.

All this is probably a bit overly technical, the Kahoona flies very well, these are just some finer points for milking it to the max. Sorry if I'm coming accross like I'm a lecturing smart ar#e and kinda highjacking Resaka's and marnos thread...I'm always happy to be corrected

marno
WA, 218 posts
19 Jan 2011 10:32PM
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Bo said...

eppo said...
I've found kite flies much smoother on the light wind setting, find if on the higher wind settings the shudder is much more pronounced.

Yeah Eppo that makes sense! On the light wind knot you're tightening the back lines, essentially powering the kite more. You could achieve the same stability effect by flying the kite with the bar more pulled in (not letting it go quite so much). Or not de-powering it excessively at the strap. This is in strong wind.

At the other end of the scale, in very light winds all kites including the Kahoona tend to backstall if the back lines are very tight. Letting the kite breathe (letting the bar out/high wind knot) will prevent this.

All this is probably a bit overly technical, the Kahoona flies very well, these are just some finer points for milking it to the max. Sorry if I'm coming accross like I'm a lecturing smart ar#e and kinda highjacking Resaka's and marnos thread...I'm always happy to be corrected




not at all Bo, I've been reading along with interest about how others are finding the best way to go about flying this kite, and its been pretty helpful i think. cheers

eppo
WA, 9766 posts
19 Jan 2011 11:38PM
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Yeh it took me a month or so but I think I have got the kite sorted...

It is a kite that needs to be flown with back line pressure and minimal bar movement, using the edge of your board and body weight as much as possible, with only slight depowering in the gusts.

This I like. You drop kite, power up and edge and bang, the power keeps on keeping on, a gust hits and you edge and let the kite take the bar out a little way. A good kite to teach those who have only learnt to kite recently, sheeting in and out way too much causing the so called 'poo' stance.

coming of the warroo had to re-learn this. You also have to be really smooth through the turns because this kite punched a lot of wack, as I found out the hard way. once you can harness this tremendous pull you can ride fast and hard, love it!

I presume all the delta kites do the same.



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