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Beginner Gear Advice- what's your preferred brand?

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Created by Stats > 9 months ago, 31 Jan 2010
Stats
VIC, 11 posts
31 Jan 2010 11:28PM
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Hi,
Just had my first few kiteboarding lessons and loving it... in the position to buy gear now and was looking for input on a few things from the more experienced members...

I need the lot - Kite, Board and harness and am tending towards the Cabrinha stuff after checking out Cabrinha, Slingshot and Ozone - however all of my training has been done on Cabrinha and i do like the clean bar and line design (neat de-power etc)

BUT after reading through this forum, it doesn't seem that Cabrinha stuff is that popular?! Is this due to the stigma of it being beginner gear rather than there being better stuff/brands or are there other brands i should more seriously consider?

I'm wondering what people would buy if they had their time again really - what their favourite kite, board and harness is and what are the key design features etc that i should be looking for... I did get advice from the school that i went through but each school have ties with certain shops and therefore source their lesson gear from them and obviously have a tendency to steer people in that direction which is fair enough, but i know once the majority move out of the safe confines of the school they start to experience and experiment...

Thanks (further info)

Weight: 76kg - beginner
Style: Freeride
Weather: Light to medium winds (10-20 knots)
Extra info: Girlfriend did lessons with me so looking for a kite she can use in different wind conditions as she is lighter than me (60kg)

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
31 Jan 2010 11:42PM
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Stats said...

Hi,
Just had my first few kiteboarding lessons and loving it... in the position to buy gear now and was looking for input on a few things from the more experienced members...

I need the lot - Kite, Board and harness and am tending towards the Cabrinha stuff after checking out Cabrinha, Slingshot and Ozone - however all of my training has been done on Cabrinha and i do like the clean bar and line design (neat de-power etc)

BUT after reading through this forum, it doesn't seem that Cabrinha stuff is that popular?! Is this due to the stigma of it being beginner gear rather than there being better stuff/brands or are there other brands i should more seriously consider?

I'm wondering what people would buy if they had their time again really - what their favourite kite, board and harness is and what are the key design features etc that i should be looking for... I did get advice from the school that i went through but each school have ties with certain shops and therefore source their lesson gear from them and obviously have a tendency to steer people in that direction which is fair enough, but i know once the majority move out of the safe confines of the school they start to experience and experiment...

Thanks (further info)

Weight: 76kg - beginner
Style: Freeride
Weather: Light to medium winds (10-20 knots)
Extra info: Girlfriend did lessons with me so looking for a kite she can use in different wind conditions as she is lighter than me (60kg)


All the 09 and 10 gear is pretty good so it should really come down to price. Try get some closeout specials as you may find some 09 gear going for a decent price with the 2010 stuff out.

You could probably go for a 10m kite if both you and the girl intend sharing it.

kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
1 Feb 2010 12:33AM
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Brands are pretty subjective. - Best to try a few. Cabrinha went with a bow design style kite, which is probably why they cope a lot of flack. There 2010 range Nomad, is Cabrinha's answer to bow kite sceptics. For a really gruntier and powerful kite, the C kite shape is your best bet, though the learning curve would be steeper. Naming a particular brand over the other will open a can of worms, and you will be more confused after reading the responses. Go with what feels righht, and have a chat to your instructor. Though be wary, as they may only recommend a kite they sell.

Goodluck KR

Kitehard
WA, 2782 posts
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1 Feb 2010 12:36AM
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Hi Stats,

Here's the thing with buying gear as a newbie. You don't have the knowledge, nor the skills to decide what kite is best for you at this point in time.

The guys you have been taking lessons from should steer you into the right kite for your desires and skill level over the next year or so. Most kites are pretty good these days but they are all different. Each kite has particular characteristics and you will learn to ride that kite and adapt to it so it will be the perfect kite for you almost regardless of what you buy.

Once you can kite competently and are good enough to start noticing what you like and dislike in a kite, then you should just try lots of kites to try and figure what better suits your riding or provides the sort of characteristics you want.

It usually takes a full two seasons until you start to understand kites well enough to make insightful choices as to what to buy. Although having said that, some kites will just "feel" right for you and this will be a good enough reason to buy it.

Everyone on this forum is biased and will try to justify why their kite brand is the best. The shops, the sponsored riders and this includes riders who get discounts for support on the beaches. It also includes people unsure of their latest purchase who need to convince themselves that they have made a good choice even though the kite is wrong for them. It is human nature to want to have the best stuff and feel good about your purchase regardless of what it is, so take no note of what anyone says about what kite is best. It's usually only the kite which best suits their style, budget, physique and availability at the time of their purchase. It may not be the best for you.

My advice is trust the guys you learned with and maybe buy the Cabrinha (never thought I'd say that). It will serve you well as you learn to kitesurf over the next year or so and then when you have the experience, find something more exciting if that's what you need.

Just get the gear and enjoy the sport.

Cheers,

KH

ghostboards
11 posts
1 Feb 2010 12:47AM
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If you have a local shop check them out. As a beginner you will be having a few crash and burn sessions so good back up will be important.

Sasha
VIC, 103 posts
1 Feb 2010 11:04AM
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Agree with kitehard= will take time till you get to know kite well and what you really want to do.
$ and safety wise, plus easy relaunch I would recommend Takoon Pure with the depower cleat below the bar (www.stonker.com.au).
But Rebel 2010 is my personal preference.
Godd luck.

Stats
VIC, 11 posts
1 Feb 2010 10:32PM
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Thanks for everyone's response! Very helpful...

@kyteryder - i didn't realise some brands stuck with a C kite design - i (wrongly) assumed that the bow/SLE kite design was the newer, better kite design - at least that's what my instructor told me - he said to stick with bow kites and i don't think he meant that just because i'm a beginner...

@Kitehard - i really appreciate the effort you went to with the detail in your reply! Very valuable info for me - i think after i get a bit better i should travel a bit and try a few more kites out... wouldn't mind a bit of a holiday to WA anyway :)

The school i used have ties with a certain shop - so because that shop stocks mostly Cabrinha, all the training gear is Cabrinha so i guess you could forgive me for wanting to stick with what i know - although i have heard a few people with a preference (strong preference) for North...

Thanks again everyone - it's really fun, i love it but progress quickly from a history of sports kites, sailing, surfing and snowboarding so want something that i will enjoy using when i am not so noob :)

general_dude
WA, 150 posts
1 Feb 2010 10:21PM
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I don't understand the bagging Cabs get. They're great kites. I think they coped a bad rap when they went the bow direction while other manufacturers stayed with Hard core C kites.

Seems a bit ironic to me that ALL those other manufacturers now sell SLE kites & most have a Bow in their range. (SLE's are really just Bows in my book anyway).

kitesurfbali
WA, 531 posts
2 Feb 2010 1:02AM
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If you trust your instructor to teach to you then you can also trust his suggestions.
They would not choose a bad kite to teach you just because they collaborate with a shop. Normally any school get special deals from any kite manufacture they choose to use. At least that is what I use to do when I was teaching....
I looked for the kite I tough was the best for teaching and then look for a deal from the manufacturer.
Cabrinha is the company that sell the most kites in the world and if you felt good with the kite you are learning with there is nothing wrong to stay with it.
At your level stay away from C kite, they are less forgiving.
Bye Jankie



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