Residential Ornithologist in conjunction with the department of the Environment and Heritage.
Review the Shoal water island marine park
From Mersey point to Bent street boat (Tern sand bar).
Impact of the flight path of kite surfer"s within this small diverse sea bird habitat.The launching and landing kites within the breeding habitat of Tern sand bar- safety bay - refer to damaged nesting sites.The city of Rockingham is evaluating strategy,s in the interset of Public duty of care.To address the behaviour of flying kites(human pull along) at ground level to head height level along the south western foreshore adjacient to the boat ramp and public access pathway- refer to registered complaints.Major concern is kiting within a dense recreational area , under predominantly on shore conditions and the high risk to kiters and general public liability.A zero tolerance maybe adopted in the near future.Refer City of Melville by laws

If true, this is probably a very good thing.

It's my local and I've probably kited there 5-6 times this season. I've also noticed when I drive past that the other 5 or 6 local kiters are never there anymore like previous years gone by.

If the council authorities happened to venture down today being a public holiday, they will be shocked at some of the behaviour.

Starting with the local instructors launching and landing their personal kites on the grass in front of the school at the yatch club. They then walk/hop 150m through a nature reserve with kites at lunchtime. (This occurs everyday at the end of lessons)

Teuro's, they come in droves in their wicked campers and hire cars. They never approach or ask about local rules, they are obnoxious and refuse to blend in with the riding patttern. Most are kooks on Cabrinahs wearing impact vest and helmet (nothing wrong with safety, just trying to paint a picture for you guy's) doing 40m tacks right in the trick zone so their hot kite bitches can get close up photo of their gayley at the pond for memories.

Learners, who's telling these guy's to buy some gear and go to the pond and practice. If your the instructor doing it then please just tell your students to go around the corner to shoalwater at the McLarty road carpark or go out the back of the sand bar, which is where I learnt for months before venturing into the pond. IMO and experiences even the outside of the sandbar is unsafe for learning, but then again I was on C kites with stuff all depower and safety.

What's wrong with pumping up on the grass near your car and carrying your kite and board down to the beach I do it and can't understand why everyone carries all their stuff out and back. I understand that if your going to go hang out for the day then take stuff, but you all have kite bitches with you,(god forbid you don't bring the gallery along to tell you how good you are) surely they can handle a mini esky with a six pack in it. Shove ya Sunscreen in her bag what more do you need.

I must admit this topic is very timely because a few of us locals had BBQ the other day and all agree that it's only a matter of time before it ends. When it does the teuro's will go home unaffected, the local school operator, who should be doing more towards helping educate will lose access and effectively half his business. KiteJam will get knocked back next year when asking for council approval the list goes on.

If anyone take's offence to anything I've said, then take a look at yourself and the part you play before PMing me.

Hope I'm not being to unaustralian on australia day

Phrase

Not sure you know all the locals at safety bay????

There are only about four people who kite there on a regular basis anyway. And Everyone of us was at the meeting at kitejam.

The reason you don't see most of us down there so often now is because we go down at about 6pm so that the euro's and the school lessons are all gone.

That way we can have the bay to ourselves.

I really think the schools should be taking a more proactive role in the emphasising of rules down the pond.

At the end of the day they are the ones that are there all day long and should be telling learners to go at the back of the pond.

Where to launch there kites etc.

As for the bird problem, nobody walks in the nesting areas anyway apart from the dog walkers who come down that should not be there anyway.

No kiters launch or land there kites in the reserve anyway only on the edge of it.

Funny how people with nothing to do but moan are the main instigators of getting this ban.

This country s turing into a winging pome nanny state.

We have noticed the chaos in the last 2 weeks and it's extremely annoying. There has been an influx of about 15 Europeans, most of whom were actually living in their campervans in the Yacht Club carpark (we told them it's illegal, they didn't move) until the Ranger came and told them to move on.

These are the people who have been causing the chaos lately. I kite and windsurf, and just because theres no room to pull (attempt ) any tricks in the pond I've been windsurfing, because, as mentioned, the Euros don't know the riding pattern.

As to those who mentioned we should help out the situation more, we are constantly telling people to move from the pond to above the sandbar, where we teach, and stictly tell our customers, and travellers (who bother to ask) that they should stick to above the sandbar until they are very competent.

Obviously its in our best interest to keep the area safe, and this is what we are constantly trying to do.

Hi guys
I was also at the Safety Bay meeting. Wich I think was quite positive. Mainly to try and form some kind of rapour with the windsurfers, who I think we have a good relationship with anyway. But as the pond becomes more and more popular a few basic rules will help things. It was also said that a few (as many) boundry signs to keep off the bush area is a good idea, wich only really seems to be a problem when the tide is in. But it`ll show the local council we care. I know that as an individual it is hard to tell people where they should or shouldn`t be setting up, launching, kiting etc. And I do try where possible, but we agreed that with signs at least you have a bit of back up. Otherwise you get the, who do you think you are telling me what to do do, attitude from some. I must say that I have been very very regular down the pond for about a year now and the local guys are a real good bunch, always have time to chat and give advice. And yes they do now tend to turn up later to avoid the crowds. But that`s not an option for me as I usually work nights. I also speak to the W.A. surf guys and they are just as concerned as the rest of us and they do try and get the message out. I love kiting down the pond but like phrase said it would be all too easy for the authorities to ban us. Even though I don`t think it is as bad as some make it out to be.

Hey Sammy

Yeah greg was on the list, I put him as Ev, Dee kites there too.

Sorry forgot you too.

Crowny for the next time I see you.

Remember I was one of the few that did sign up to your club lol

Apologise if I forgot anyone else.

Apart from signs and constent reminders

What else can we do if the Euros are there all day when no-one else is?

Just to back up the guys from WA Surf - when I took my lessons with them I was told that I shouldn't consider the pond until I can hold my ground upwind.

f$cken euro's can't wait till they all piss off and leave safetybay alone, these euro's also give us a bad image with the wind surfers too, who i've never had a problem with,, ya get the odd dickhead but ya get that everywhere!!

That spot is crazy crowded... did anyone say euro?....
I went there at lunch time to ride one day and all i saw was a euro kook/claim fest with about a million kites going back to the future in the middle of "wakestyle" tricks.
I just ended up going down there late in the arvo from then on, that way there is no crowds and i didnt have to witness such kite butchery.

Bigwavedave said...

Ban Euro's!!!
Get em at the airport, break their knees!

sir ROWDY said...

That spot is crazy crowded... did anyone say euro?....

nashville said...

f$cken euro's can't wait till they all piss off and leave safetybay alone, these euro's also give us a bad image

Waoooh that's cleaver... we found someone to blame... it was easy
Is it this the kitsurfer mentality?
I just came back from EUR where I had a great time Foreigners like US in crowded snowfields there are evreywhere and it don't seem to be a problem with that!
I am about to start kitsurfing, I hope the majority of kiters are not like you guys (above)
It natural to protect our space... but com,n
what about....

phrase said...

Maybe the euros AND other Oz kiters will get the message that safety bay isn`t Dodge city. It`s a small world and word soon gets around.
Or am I wrong to think that it could be that easy?

I think phrase is wright, its not going to be easy, but it's everyone responsability and I will say it's more the experienced kitesurfers, windsurfers, etc.. to keep an eye and communicate to others...

Anyway it look like we getting close to the end of the season (for the crowd and wind) and peace in the area should soon return!

good wind to all

Just put up a few warning pics like this along the fenceline, then no one will go there