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bjw
bjw

bjw

QLD

3687 posts

23 Sep 2017 7:49pm
To Bali. There's more bogan Australians there anyway.

But getting all up in our Aussie Pride, why has no one really seem to be supporting, what I think is some massive wins for Aussie kiting.

1) Eleveight Kites -

owned and founded in part by Rob @ Maroubra. Gotta say I've been using their wave kite and it's a freak. Since Best went bankrupt most the team moved away and founded Eleveight. The wave looks identical to the best Cabo but has way more power and is the nicest kite I've riden.

Impressively the 8m turns like an 8 and has the power if an eight.

Also no game changers. It's still the smoothest kite I've used.


2) BWS Blue Bar.
Ok. It's no longer a game changer, to have the click thingy bar, but it's hell sexy and simple.

Great to see Aussies pushing the industry.

Here ends my blatant pimping.



Australia should still move Aussie Day. It'd be way cheaper and more fun in Bali.
Gazuki
Gazuki

WA

1363 posts

23 Sep 2017 5:59pm
That is a really nice looking kite.
I know this is rediculous but the way a kite looks sell me almost as much as how they fly.
Who's selling them in Aus?
bjw
bjw

bjw

QLD

3687 posts

23 Sep 2017 9:07pm
They are just starting to roll out. I'm guessing all the Best suppliers will sell them.
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

23 Sep 2017 8:37pm
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bjw said..
To Bali. There's more bogan Australians there anyway.

But getting all up in our Aussie Pride, why has no one really seem to be supporting, what I think is some massive wins for Aussie kiting.

1) Eleveight Kites -

owned and founded in part by Rob @ Maroubra. Gotta say I've been using their wave kite and it's a freak. Since Best went bankrupt most the team moved away and founded Eleveight. The wave looks identical to the best Cabo but has way more power and is the nicest kite I've riden.

Impressively the 8m turns like an 8 and has the power if an eight.

Also no game changers. It's still the smoothest kite I've used.


2) BWS Blue Bar.
Ok. It's no longer a game changer, to have the click thingy bar, but it's hell sexy and simple.

Great to see Aussies pushing the industry.

Here ends my blatant pimping.



Australia should still move Aussie Day. It'd be way cheaper and more fun in Bali.


aint that a rip off of the ocean rodeo bar?
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

23 Sep 2017 8:41pm
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Gazuki said..
That is a really nice looking kite.
I know this is rediculous but the way a kite looks sell me almost as much as how they fly.
Who's selling them in Aus?


Tom at Exmouth Surf Centre has been trialing the kites, youll be seeing them at the Midwest Windfest
bjw
bjw

bjw

QLD

3687 posts

24 Sep 2017 6:44am
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cauncy said..

aint that a rip off of the ocean rodeo bar?


I looked at the 2 online and they look identical. Even the chicken loop and swivel looks the same as the current bws.

Someone said BWS had a click bar patent in sometime ago, so I'm guessing BWS designed it and is supplying Ocean Rodeo.
Saffer
Saffer

VIC

4501 posts

24 Sep 2017 7:21am
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bjw said..

cauncy said..

aint that a rip off of the ocean rodeo bar?



I looked at the 2 online and they look identical. Even the chicken loop and swivel looks the same as the current bws.

Someone said BWS had a click bar patent in sometime ago, so I'm guessing BWS designed it and is supplying Ocean Rodeo.


Click bar was developed by a third party and licensed to the various kite companies from what I understand
EastCC
EastCC

QLD

356 posts

24 Sep 2017 7:49am
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bjw said..











cauncy said..

aint that a rip off of the ocean rodeo bar?













I looked at the 2 online and they look identical. Even the chicken loop and swivel looks the same as the current bws.

Someone said BWS had a click bar patent in sometime ago, so I'm guessing BWS designed it and is supplying Ocean Rodeo.



Nope wrong. Ocean Rodeo designed the Stick Shift Bar in conjunction with R3 designs, Designs on the first incarnation started way back in 2011, it has evolved a lot since then though. Not sure on how those companies are interlinked but they are somehow.
On sold this bar design to BWS. The only thing BWS has changed is the colour. And the name.

BWS had/has a rear line trim patent in but the design was pretty primitive like a btb trim cleat at one end of the bar. But the idea was there.

BWS and Ocean Rodeo (and others) have shared parts before on their bars.
Quite a few companies share that same QR, bar, & front line attachment design.

Doesnt really matter who designed what in any case. The bar is really good, get a demo.
Feedback I've had on this bar-
initially is "WTF?"
After using it "I want one"

Bar diameter is a bit bigger than others but the eva is nice and soft. The open design carbon composite bar flushes debris out really well. Stopper works sweet and clear lines atb. Line quality is great - Liros 580kg HD. The rear lines pay out when not under tension. Replacing parts is simple and relatively quick, spares available, you can change the trim knob to the left if desired.

The design is so simple looking at it, minimal moving parts but it did take ages to get it right with bar materials and small design issues.

Ocean Rodeo, BWS, or whoever is next - it's a good bar.
I think rear line trim is the way looking forward.

cauncy not really a "rip off" as I'm sure there's cash changing hands somewhere along the line

sorry for the hijack.
Adam'KiteRepair
Adam'KiteRepair

NSW

331 posts

25 Sep 2017 7:08am
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EastCC said..

bjw said..












cauncy said..

aint that a rip off of the ocean rodeo bar?














I looked at the 2 online and they look identical. Even the chicken loop and swivel looks the same as the current bws.

Someone said BWS had a click bar patent in sometime ago, so I'm guessing BWS designed it and is supplying Ocean Rodeo.




Nope wrong. Ocean Rodeo designed the Stick Shift Bar in conjunction with R3 designs, Designs on the first incarnation started way back in 2011, it has evolved a lot since then though. Not sure on how those companies are interlinked but they are somehow.
On sold this bar design to BWS. The only thing BWS has changed is the colour. And the name.

BWS had/has a rear line trim patent in but the design was pretty primitive like a btb trim cleat at one end of the bar. But the idea was there.

BWS and Ocean Rodeo (and others) have shared parts before on their bars.
Quite a few companies share that same QR, bar, & front line attachment design.

Doesnt really matter who designed what in any case. The bar is really good, get a demo.
Feedback I've had on this bar-
initially is "WTF?"
After using it "I want one"

Bar diameter is a bit bigger than others but the eva is nice and soft. The open design carbon composite bar flushes debris out really well. Stopper works sweet and clear lines atb. Line quality is great - Liros 580kg HD. The rear lines pay out when not under tension. Replacing parts is simple and relatively quick, spares available, you can change the trim knob to the left if desired.

The design is so simple looking at it, minimal moving parts but it did take ages to get it right with bar materials and small design issues.

Ocean Rodeo, BWS, or whoever is next - it's a good bar.
I think rear line trim is the way looking forward.

cauncy not really a "rip off" as I'm sure there's cash changing hands somewhere along the line

sorry for the hijack.


yep. my understanding is that bws baught the rights to the bar. so it theirs, either way, its meant to be good ay. I have used thw curved bar of theirs before. amazing how much leverage they produce, and super comfy on the wrists
bjw
bjw

bjw

QLD

3687 posts

25 Sep 2017 4:17pm
Yeh, if you look at the web site, clearly R3 own it, and have shared parts as Eastcc explained.

Either way good to see an Aussie brand going top end.
EastCC
EastCC

QLD

356 posts

18 Sep 2018 8:48pm
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bjw said..


Someone said BWS had a click bar patent in sometime ago



Watching an old BWS vid - check out 2.25 to 2.30 - in 2013.
Probably never really notice it until you know what it is you're looking at...

Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel

WA

1397 posts

18 Sep 2018 8:47pm
I like the sound of an 8m kite that flys and turn like an 8, doesn't change the game, and doesnt make me wonder if I do "Real Kitesurfing" or not.
theDoctor
theDoctor

NSW

5786 posts

19 Sep 2018 7:47am

I just don't get why you'd name a kite after pregnancy vitamins
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel

WA

1397 posts

19 Sep 2018 9:09am
Haha or an East Perth hipster breakfast cafe

duo-tone.com.au
IanR
IanR

NSW

1327 posts

19 Sep 2018 12:40pm
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theDoctor said..

I just don't get why you'd name a kite after pregnancy vitamins


Or a posinous allotrope of oxygen
Lorgra
Lorgra

WA

215 posts

21 Sep 2018 9:07am
Is it me or have kite prices gone through the roof?

I was thinking of upgrading this year but might stick with the one kite quiver.

Where is the incentive to support Australian Owned if the prices are the same as other brands.

Whinge over.

Turn up the wind dial please!
bjw
bjw

bjw

QLD

3687 posts

21 Sep 2018 4:17pm
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EastCC said..




bjw said..


Someone said BWS had a click bar patent in sometime ago




Watching an old BWS vid - check out 2.25 to 2.30 - in 2013.
Probably never really notice it until you know what it is you're looking at...



Good find!!

On another note, how good were Wilson's videos back in the day!
EastCC
EastCC

QLD

356 posts

21 Sep 2018 6:10pm
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Good find!!

On another note, how good were Wilson's videos back in the day!


Yeah gets you frothin
markus78
markus78

14 posts

24 Sep 2018 1:21pm
Hi,

as qld correctly said "Probably never really notice it until you know what it is you're looking at..."
I'm disappointed that North/Duotone "developed" it exactly like BWS.... but if BWS has a patent, why are they not sueing???
Especially if I look at the blue chip bar, BWS has still such a kind of bar in use. so why not haveing a patent for the "click bar"?

markus
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