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Kite Board Repair- Best Glue?

Created by Underoath Underoath  > 9 months ago, 15 Aug 2019
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Underoath
Underoath

QLD

2434 posts

15 Aug 2019 12:45pm
Picked up a cheap kiteboard that requires a repair on the nose.
(Had been previously attempted at fixing with what looks like some type of foaming Polyurethane and Epoxy)

It's a straight forward delaminate, approximenltly 5cms.

Does anyone have any glue that would work best. I would usually go for the standard two part epoxy adhesive.

I'm going to assume not all epoxies are created equal. Any tips?
causehecan
causehecan

WA

668 posts

15 Aug 2019 3:56pm
5 minute clear araldite from bunnings.

Overlap tape over the rail/edge your glueing fill her up clamp her down wait as reccomended ... i think i try wait 12 hours clamped.

Now what i do is i keep the overlapped masking tape (blue paper one) on the board and i cut off the overlapped tape and excess araldite useing a good razor blade. You should end up with a board in right shape with just a little lick of tape still on the boards top and bottom surface. I dont peel it off. Itll help protect the araldite from uv damage is my theory. I tested this by taking tape off one corner leaving it on another.
Underoath
Underoath

QLD

2434 posts

15 Aug 2019 7:10pm
I'll do that. Cheers
Mark _australia
Mark _australia

WA

23526 posts

15 Aug 2019 6:43pm
araldite is not designed for continuous immersion, if you kite every other day for a season it may not be great.

Do it right....

Pics?
Underoath
Underoath

QLD

2434 posts

15 Aug 2019 8:57pm





All the old glue has been cleaned off. 2 hours later.
causehecan
causehecan

WA

668 posts

15 Aug 2019 7:39pm
Oh god... Thats a nightmare


Auction board?


If it was a surfboard thats almost a cut it off territory
Redgy
Redgy

WA

117 posts

15 Aug 2019 7:43pm
I use sellys knead it aqua. Buy it from Bunnings. It comes in a little tube, cut off a piece knead for about 2 minutes and place where needed like putty. Very easy to use and can be sanded or drilled within 1 hour. Have used it on a couple of boards and never had any dramas.
Underoath
Underoath

QLD

2434 posts

15 Aug 2019 9:50pm
Local online buy and sell.

I knew what I was buying. It's not ideal condition at the moment but it's fixable.

The board came with good pads and fins. Can't complain.

On average I'll loose a board a year, or one will snap. So no reason to spend big.

Just fix, thrash and replace!
shi thouse
shi thouse

WA

1154 posts

15 Aug 2019 8:23pm
Nah, you will be right. You obviously want a low viscosity glue so you can get it down into the opening. Bunnings sell a super strength araldite that has high water and weather resistance so that should do the trick but given the size of your job you may need it in a higher quantity than the standard 24ml mix plus it will get expensive.

Araldite is quite viscose so maybe pop into a trade store and get something a little more runnier than that but has the same properties. Even if you get a season or two out of the board it's worth a shot. Just clamp it well and give it a few days to cure.
2stubborn2quit
2stubborn2quit

WA

169 posts

15 Aug 2019 8:33pm
I believe the best chance you have is to use the "West System" low viscosity epoxy. Slow hardener. Not available at Bunning's or any cheap ar$e hardware store. Mix up the required amount in a half aluminium can, stand board upright, pour small amount in delamination, let it settle for 10 min, Apply to both surfaces then clamp. lots of soft jaw quick action clamps. Wipe up all excess with paper towel and Metho.
Sounds easy but it isn't, really messy, wear gloves.
Repair near invisible joints, water proof, strong, flexible and edges will sand easily with wet and dry.
The glue is expensive but you get what you pay for.
Or the smart move would be to throw it in the bin and use the cash to buy a quality second hand board.
kitcho207
kitcho207

NSW

865 posts

15 Aug 2019 11:00pm
2nd west systems. I would go with the fast (206) hardner for this one. there is no real strength benefit going for the slow (205). just gives more time to work. fast still is a lot slower than most other glues.
Ensure no water ingress (oven or hot car in summer) then lightly pry apart and try to get the epoxy as far into the delam crack as possible using a long blade. Then clamp as much as possible for at least a day I wouldnt ride it for another 2 days as it takes about this time to go off properly. (or use oven)
THE PIN PULLER
THE PIN PULLER

WA

472 posts

15 Aug 2019 11:09pm
Oh my god just go buy the new north board and a dilllldo. Send that thing in the post to some random 3world country with some of your old c4s.
NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS

QLD

1084 posts

16 Aug 2019 11:48am
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THE PIN PULLER said..
Oh my god just go buy the new north board and a dilllldo. Send that thing in the post to some random 3world country with some of your old c4s.


Don't send it to me. I've got enough crap.
Underoath
Underoath

QLD

2434 posts

16 Aug 2019 3:04pm
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NorthernKitesAUS said..

THE PIN PULLER said..
Oh my god just go buy the new north board and a dilllldo. Send that thing in the post to some random 3world country with some of your old c4s.



Don't send it to me. I've got enough crap.


I know - I did send you that 2002 13m Slighshot Fuel......
RayQ
RayQ

WA

636 posts

16 Aug 2019 1:16pm
Hi JZ, See if it has polystyrene inside, if it's PVC Foam or wood core use standard? Polyester surfboard resin, the proper Epoxy will not be available in the small quantities you need and the Araldite is not good enough.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia

WA

23526 posts

16 Aug 2019 10:03pm
So much bad advice here from those who "know"

Knead-It and so on won't spread enough as it is a putty, not a resin

Straight West Systems will do, but it is not a proper adhesive when its just resin.

Araldite is not designed for continuous immersion, but it will do.
On the other hand you will need about 2 full kits to do that large area = $30 plus, at crap Bunnings prices.


YES you can get quality epoxy in small amounts. For eg: Boatcraft Pacific sell their 150ml sample kit for about $20 posted and it includes a filler additive that makes it an adhesive. Far better than all the above stuff. And you will have half left for the next repair....

'oathman if you're coming here in summer I'd do it for free so you don't follow the advice of some here



Underoath
Underoath

QLD

2434 posts

18 Aug 2019 12:08pm
Boards fixed.
Wood core, so was fine to go with the epoxy.

Did did the repair over a few days, rather messy, could have been cleaner.

Glued a section and used a few clamps for 12 hours, move onto the next section.

Used around 40ml of epoxy.


causehecan
causehecan

WA

668 posts

18 Aug 2019 5:30pm
Nice job matey looks great. Shoulda left my secret masking tape trick on when your repairs are as good as mine its the only way you can tell which side was damaged should get a couple seasons out of her now that your an old man
thecarbonco
thecarbonco

QLD

19 posts

23 Aug 2019 11:46pm
The best way to fix that sort of damage is epoxy, some silica and a vacuum bag. Clean and sand both surfaces if you want it to work well.
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