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Foil Kite Self Landing Stick

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stevy
stevy

NSW

9 posts

22 Mar 2020 5:57pm
After watching Shingo Hayakawa-sans Foil Kite Catcher video, I liked the idea but thought the catcher could be simplified.
So i took an old walking stick, about 80cm long and added a tennis ball to the end so there,s nothing sharp to damage the kite on.
I also put on a small flag as to make it easy to see, with a note, DO NOT REMOVE.
I then push or hammer the stick about half way in to the ground/sand at an angle in to the wind.
The idea is to fly the kite just ahead of the stick and let it drift back catching the tip and/or tip bridle and the kite lays down nicely every time.
Depending on which bridles catch, the kite will lay down a bit different each time , but it always lays down.
I,ve had a 100% success rate in the few months i,ve been using the stick.
After the kite has landed, weight the tip, lift the bridles off the stick and the kite's ready to launch again.
There has been no signs of wear or damage and i think there is less strain on the bridles compared to flagging out on the safety line.
The biggest kite i,ve landed on the stick is 12m, but i,m sure bigger kites will land just the same.
The hardest part is getting the distance right from the stick, so i often do a couple of practice flyby swoops to check the distance.
It,s actually good fun to land the kite on the stick.
For the record, i can land foil kites all 8 ways as shown in Adventure Logs video.
What i like best about the stick is the kite lands right there where the stick is.
It,s easy to make and fun to use so give it a go.
Plummet
Plummet

4862 posts

22 Mar 2020 4:12pm
Cunning!.....I wonder how easy that would be in bat**** crazy gusty wind.
snalberski
snalberski

WA

858 posts

22 Mar 2020 5:07pm
I suppose if you were always in a spot were no one is available to catch your kite it would be an option. Front line flagging would clearly be safer and less likely to damage the kite.
Gazuki
Gazuki

WA

1363 posts

22 Mar 2020 5:07pm
Fantastic!!
stevy
stevy

NSW

9 posts

22 Mar 2020 8:23pm
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snalberski said..
I suppose if you were always in a spot were no one is available to catch your kite it would be an option. Front line flagging would clearly be safer and less likely to damage the kite.



Disagree. Front line flagging puts a lot of stress on the kite, sometimes it's flapping like mad until you get to it.
Also it's landing 20-25m downwind of you. You don't know if there sticks or shells on the beach there doing damage to your kite.
No wear or damage has happened to my kites in the months if been using the stick.
natho6026961
natho6026961

WA

115 posts

22 Mar 2020 8:55pm
Excellent idea, thanks for sharing.
CJ2478
CJ2478

NSW

484 posts

23 Mar 2020 8:24am
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stevy said..
After watching Shingo Hayakawa-sans Foil Kite Catcher video, I liked the idea but thought the catcher could be simplified.
So i took an old walking stick, about 80cm long and added a tennis ball to the end so there,s nothing sharp to damage the kite on.
I also put on a small flag as to make it easy to see, with a note, DO NOT REMOVE.
I then push or hammer the stick about half way in to the ground/sand at an angle in to the wind.
The idea is to fly the kite just ahead of the stick and let it drift back catching the tip and/or tip bridle and the kite lays down nicely every time.
Depending on which bridles catch, the kite will lay down a bit different each time , but it always lays down.
I,ve had a 100% success rate in the few months i,ve been using the stick.
After the kite has landed, weight the tip, lift the bridles off the stick and the kite's ready to launch again.
There has been no signs of wear or damage and i think there is less strain on the bridles compared to flagging out on the safety line.
The biggest kite i,ve landed on the stick is 12m, but i,m sure bigger kites will land just the same.
The hardest part is getting the distance right from the stick, so i often do a couple of practice flyby swoops to check the distance.
It,s actually good fun to land the kite on the stick.
For the record, i can land foil kites all 8 ways as shown in Adventure Logs video.
What i like best about the stick is the kite lands right there where the stick is.
It,s easy to make and fun to use so give it a go.


is that the richmond river?
snalberski
snalberski

WA

858 posts

23 Mar 2020 9:24am
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stevy said..

snalberski said..
I suppose if you were always in a spot were no one is available to catch your kite it would be an option. Front line flagging would clearly be safer and less likely to damage the kite.




Disagree. Front line flagging puts a lot of stress on the kite, sometimes it's flapping like mad until you get to it.
Also it's landing 20-25m downwind of you. You don't know if there sticks or shells on the beach there doing damage to your kite.
No wear or damage has happened to my kites in the months if been using the stick.


? Your avoiding landing on sticks by landing on a stick? Maybe you should revisit your front flagging technique. Neither method will be a problem in 10 knts as in you video but in high teens it will be a different kettle of fish. Either way assisted landing is preferred.
stevy
stevy

NSW

9 posts

23 Mar 2020 2:58pm
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snalberski said..


stevy said..



snalberski said..
I suppose if you were always in a spot were no one is available to catch your kite it would be an option. Front line flagging would clearly be safer and less likely to damage the kite.






Disagree. Front line flagging puts a lot of stress on the kite, sometimes it's flapping like mad until you get to it.
Also it's landing 20-25m downwind of you. You don't know if there sticks or shells on the beach there doing damage to your kite.
No wear or damage has happened to my kites in the months if been using the stick.




? Your avoiding landing on sticks by landing on a stick? Maybe you should revisit your front flagging technique. Neither method will be a problem in 10 knts as in you video but in high teens it will be a different kettle of fish. Either way assisted landing is preferred.



Thanks snalberski. But as you see in the video, my stick has a ball on the end for protection ,so impossible to do damage to the kite with it.
The day of the video was around 15kts and I've successfully landed my 6m kite in 20kts+ and my 12m kite in15kts.
Both the same result, no problems. Maybe you should make one and try it, then give us your review.
stevy
stevy

NSW

9 posts

23 Mar 2020 3:03pm
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CJ2478 said..

stevy said..
After watching Shingo Hayakawa-sans Foil Kite Catcher video, I liked the idea but thought the catcher could be simplified.
So i took an old walking stick, about 80cm long and added a tennis ball to the end so there,s nothing sharp to damage the kite on.
I also put on a small flag as to make it easy to see, with a note, DO NOT REMOVE.
I then push or hammer the stick about half way in to the ground/sand at an angle in to the wind.
The idea is to fly the kite just ahead of the stick and let it drift back catching the tip and/or tip bridle and the kite lays down nicely every time.
Depending on which bridles catch, the kite will lay down a bit different each time , but it always lays down.
I,ve had a 100% success rate in the few months i,ve been using the stick.
After the kite has landed, weight the tip, lift the bridles off the stick and the kite's ready to launch again.
There has been no signs of wear or damage and i think there is less strain on the bridles compared to flagging out on the safety line.
The biggest kite i,ve landed on the stick is 12m, but i,m sure bigger kites will land just the same.
The hardest part is getting the distance right from the stick, so i often do a couple of practice flyby swoops to check the distance.
It,s actually good fun to land the kite on the stick.
For the record, i can land foil kites all 8 ways as shown in Adventure Logs video.
What i like best about the stick is the kite lands right there where the stick is.
It,s easy to make and fun to use so give it a go.



is that the richmond river?


Hi CJ,
Yes thats the Richmond River.
Gorgo
Gorgo

VIC

5108 posts

23 Mar 2020 3:07pm
In my foil kiting days I used the following methods to land.

- Hook the bridles on a shrub.

- Land in the wind shadow of a building or tree.

- This was my usual method.
Bring the kite to the edge of the window. Hover the kite on a tip. Walk upwind and slowly stall the kite down onto the ground. Finish off by running upwind and pulling in a more solid stall.

Once down you can kill the kite by holding a single brake line down on the ground. The line has to be down on the ground to limit air getting under the wing. If necessary walk hand over hand up the brake line to the kite.

The advantages of this are:
- You're not stalling from zenith so you don't have the kite plummeting backwards out of the sky onto some random spot.
- You can easily modulate the stall so that the kite does not flip over and reverse up.
- Most times the kite will settle where you've parked the tip and not go sliding all over the place.
snalberski
snalberski

WA

858 posts

23 Mar 2020 3:02pm
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Gorgo said..
In my foil kiting days I used the following methods to land.

- Hook the bridles on a shrub.

- Land in the wind shadow of a building or tree.

- This was my usual method.
Bring the kite to the edge of the window. Hover the kite on a tip. Walk upwind and slowly stall the kite down onto the ground. Finish off by running upwind and pulling in a more solid stall.

Once down you can kill the kite by holding a single brake line down on the ground. The line has to be down on the ground to limit air getting under the wing. If necessary walk hand over hand up the brake line to the kite.

The advantages of this are:
- You're not stalling from zenith so you don't have the kite plummeting backwards out of the sky onto some random spot.
- You can easily modulate the stall so that the kite does not flip over and reverse up.
- Most times the kite will settle where you've parked the tip and not go sliding all over the place.



Now this I like... minus the hook on a shrub bit
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales

WA

1900 posts

24 Mar 2020 6:17am
Glad you made the video, mis-interpretation at the local, has seen hundreds of kites hooking the stick in the top part of the tree
BillTotal
BillTotal

QLD

50 posts

30 May 2020 6:22pm
Thanks Steve!
Self landing this way is a breeze. Used this method now a couple of times from 7 - 20 knots with my Sonic2, 13 & 9m. Just like in the video. Easy pack up, no tangles, ready to fly for the next session.

Really appreciated , thanks mate
NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS

QLD

1084 posts

30 May 2020 7:42pm
Fantastic idea mate! I had a similar idea with an arm contraption sticking out to catch the wing tip, but this is way better!
Fantastic seeing kiters be so inventive without the need to ... hmm I wish they would make something like..... JUST MAKE IT YOURSELF!
Well done
Trenttdk
Trenttdk

WA

11 posts

1 Jun 2020 12:34pm
Is the stick at the edge of the window? Was hard for me to pick it in the video and it almost looks straight downwind, but I'm guessing that can't be right. Cheers.
dafish
dafish

NSW

1654 posts

1 Jun 2020 9:04pm
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Trenttdk said..
Is the stick at the edge of the window? Was hard for me to pick it in the video and it almost looks straight downwind, but I'm guessing that can't be right. Cheers.


Pretty easy to work out. Just look at the telltail on the stick. He walks onto the sand direct down wind, then puts the kite to the edge of the wind window to hook the bridle. Fantastic idea.
jamesperth
jamesperth

WA

611 posts

3 Jun 2020 10:18am
i like it. might give it a go as i often do solo sessions in light winds with my foil kites.
Leighbreeze
Leighbreeze

WA

556 posts

6 Jun 2020 7:18am
Hey Stevy
Awesome idea.Will make one.
I have a custom made stainless 45cm threaded Screwpipe kite self land and launch rope attached with snap shackle, works well with normal kites .
Could add a tennis ball should work fine.
I am just down the road Shark Bay Iluka.
Always kite foiling solo.
Cross on to on eneasters to nth west winds from September to April.
Trees downwind of landing just waiting for a failure.
Offshore in winter anything south to swest.
Only the river in winter.
Couple of narrow launching and landing spots in river,which would be ok with your landing tool.
Have had a couple of close calls solo.
Come down the road when we get the Seabreeze again.
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