This is my first foil I got this at the the same time as I got the board Slingshot Allen air. I have had a lot of front foot pressure from the start.Did a lot of modes to get this to work for me. Moved foil all the way back then drilled out two of the countersink hole to move it further back. Got the slingshot hook foot strap had that facing for-would. Had advices from axis had the wedge on the back wing .Got it working fine happy with the board .
Turns out board and foil don't rely work together needed track to be further back.
Just gone and changed the back wing to a 340 this has made a good improvement .
Heads up if your looking at getting a axis foil look into getting a smaller back wing 340 or 370 with the foil. Very happy with the axis foil looking into sub foiling and only need to change front wing.

Alien Air is a terrible board: way, way too big in all dimensions.

Tracks and mast placement are a very subjective thing. I ride all the Axis foils I've tried all the way forwards on all my boards

Smaller stab is indeed better. Shorter fuse is better again

The Slingshot track is too far forward for Axis foils, it's a well known issue. I have mine right at the back with the 680/400 and my front foot is still forward of the foot strap holes.

Kamikuza uses the Slingshot DW micro board so the track is much further back on the board.

I keep hearing good things about the 370 rear...

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Alysum said..
The Slingshot track is too far forward for Axis foils, it's a well known issue. I have mine right at the back with the 680/400 and my front foot is still forward of the foot strap holes.

Kamikuza uses the Slingshot DW micro board so the track is much further back on the board.

I keep hearing good things about the 370 rear...

Way too far back I have the mast all the way forward, my back foot at least in the middle of the strap holes, and tend to move it back. Front foot goes anywhere from in front of the holes to behind the front holes, usually in the middle. I don't like the "narrow" feeling of the stance with the mast put any further back.

I have the 680 / 400 combo with 68.5cm fuse (short) for kiting. Absolutely love it.

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jamesperth said..
I have the 680 / 400 combo with 68.5cm fuse (short) for kiting. Absolutely love it.

Yup same. It's good but could be a bit looser, I guess that's what the smaller stabs are for

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jamesperth said..
I have the 680 / 400 combo with 68.5cm fuse (short) for kiting. Absolutely love it.

Yup same. It's good but could be a bit looser, I guess that's what the smaller stabs are for

I tried it for the first time with the 460 stab the other day, heaps looser and faster.

Ultra short fuse is looser again.

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Alysum said..

jamesperth said..
I have the 680 / 400 combo with 68.5cm fuse (short) for kiting. Absolutely love it.

Yup same. It's good but could be a bit looser, I guess that's what the smaller stabs are for

I tried it for the first time with the 460 stab the other day, heaps looser and faster.

Ultra short fuse is looser again.

How would the 460 be looser and faster than a smaller 400 ?

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How would the 460 be looser and faster than a smaller 400 ?

No. Yes.

It'll be more stable cos it's bigger* so you can go faster -- I can't go as fast with the Short fuse and 380 stab as I could with the Regular and 440...

*Isn't it? Axis wings are AFAIK named for their span...

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tightlines said..

Alysum said..

jamesperth said..
I have the 680 / 400 combo with 68.5cm fuse (short) for kiting. Absolutely love it.

Yup same. It's good but could be a bit looser, I guess that's what the smaller stabs are for

I tried it for the first time with the 460 stab the other day, heaps looser and faster.

Ultra short fuse is looser again.

How would the 460 be looser and faster than a smaller 400 ?

Probably hard to see in the photo but 460 is way less surface area, thinner chord and way thinner in thickness, plus straight rather than turned up wing tips.

Way less drag.

Great information thanks !

Which should be my next stab size for me for winging with the 1000 and kite foiling on the 680 for more speed ? Only have the 400 on short fuse. 460, 370, 390... ?

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Great information thanks !

Which should be my next stab size for me for winging with the 1000 and kite foiling on the 680 for more speed ? Only have the 400 on short fuse. 460, 370, 390... ?

I liked the 680 + Ultra Short + 400. But the 370 and US was too twitchy, but 370 is great with the Short fuse and big wings. Makes the 820 much more agile.

Can't speak to speed -- I think because the S + 370 is looser, I can't go as fast as I could with the Regular and 440. But it carves so much better, so I don't care :D

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Great information thanks !

Which should be my next stab size for me for winging with the 1000 and kite foiling on the 680 for more speed ? Only have the 400 on short fuse. 460, 370, 390... ?

Speed = 460.

Ended up getting the 390, as it sounds good for the winding, will report back !

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Ended up getting the 390, as it sounds good for the winding, will report back !

390 GAP, the upside down wing? Do report back. If you don't like it, I'll buy it :D

I seem to remember thinking it was too loose in a straight line, too locked in when carving...maybe it was the other way around...

Has anyone experimented with shims yet when kite foiling ?

390 stab with 680 front work well for me as rear almost never breaches due to design.

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390 stab with 680 front work well for me as rear almost never breaches due to design.

It is indeed a very stable combo ! I do need to test my 390GAP back to back with my 400 to really notice the differences but definitely fewer breaches.

Looks like there's a 420 flat stab coming out too.

axisfoils.com/products/s-series-carbon-rear-wing-420mm