my ears are still ringing after being a spectator at this years 1000 .those cars are insane not to metion noisy.missed out on a good see breeze today.apparently one of this years drivers (nissan) is a keen sailboarder.never got his name but one of the pit commentators metion it.

Lived in Bathurst for 15 years.

Managed to avoid all 15 races.

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japie said..
Lived in Bathurst for 15 years.

Managed to avoid all 15 races.

No wonder your application to join #teamstraya was refused

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japie said..
Lived in Bathurst for 15 years.

Managed to avoid all 15 races.

I'm sure that's exactly the reply gavin was after. A nice positive post with a giant negative reply.

You are a bubble buster japie.

Glad you had a good weekend Gavin. Nothing beats the smell and noise or a race car.

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youngbull

You are a bubble buster japie.

Glad you had a good weekend Gavin. Nothing beats the smell and noise or a race car.

No he ain't and yes there is.

The smell and sizzle noise of a mackerel you caught today on the BBQ plate.

I only wrote it for the impact! You have to have a stir once in a while.

Whilst cars have never done anything for me I don't begrudge anyone their hobbies which is why I find the constant poleies vs kiters so pedestrian.

Had a couple of mates who dragged me to two grand pricks and for me it was an utter waste of time.

I have to say though that the narrowing down of the competition to Ford vs Holden lost me completely. Too much like canned sport.

i can remember my first bratwurst like it was yesterday.
october three years ago,i drank a shizz load of german beer, fondled a couple of fraulein's
and had my first Bratwurst.

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japie said..
I only wrote it for the impact! You have to have a stir once in a while.

Whilst cars have never done anything for me I don't begrudge anyone their hobbies which is why I find the constant poleies vs kiters so pedestrian.

Had a couple of mates who dragged me to two grand pricks and for me it was an utter waste of time.

I have to say though that the narrowing down of the competition to Ford vs Holden lost me completely. Too much like canned sport.

What ever

Face it you can only enjoy what you can afford / capable of driving

By the looks of your car ,remind me to walk / may be the horse and cart with stone wheels 4 you

Love the V8s and Grand Prix .............for a huge variety of reasons , enjoyed Bathurst on the TV wicked

you lucky bugger GAVEWEN ...... its on my bucket list , as are a number of other circuits with in Australia and overseas...........mind you think ill give Russia Grand Prix a miss ...........very unattractive environment

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youngbull

You are a bubble buster japie.

Glad you had a good weekend Gavin. Nothing beats the smell and noise or a race car.

No he ain't and yes there is.

The smell and sizzle noise of a mackerel you caught today on the BBQ plate.

^^^just open a can of Whiskas

Dhuie or baldie, now that's fish worth eating.

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Whilst cars have never done anything for me I don't begrudge anyone their hobbies which is why I find the constant poleies vs kiters so pedestrian.

At times, I do begrudge some hobbies. As may audiologists.

Some people who are fans of motor sport races would be influenced to drive their PWCs at speed and irresponsibly. This has affected 'poleies' and kiters alike.

Isn't there supposedly a moment of peak oil that we have in view on the horizon? As fans of water sports, we turn our engines off at our destination - we don't turn another engine on, such as a race car.

I once did a lap of Mt Panorama - took 1h50m. On my walk, I encountered a zoo/sanctuary at the top of the mountain (on the other side of the fence) - I still wonder how they manage the well-being of the many emus over the roar of the engines.

There is much more to Bathurst and its surrounds than a race track. Please consider MTB to historic villages of Rockley, Sofala, Hill End. And rock-climbing at Evans Crown, very near the village of Tarana. The sense of exciting remoteness has been found doing this stuff.

Another quaint village 35km SW of Bathurst will attract several hard-core men and women next month, and the driver of the engine can be visibly seen! - http://www.carcoarcup.com.au/events... Check how long the first event is.

A big thumbs-up to Japie and his original post.

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japie said..
I only wrote it for the impact! You have to have a stir once in a while.

Whilst cars have never done anything for me I don't begrudge anyone their hobbies which is why I find the constant poleies vs kiters so pedestrian.

Had a couple of mates who dragged me to two grand pricks and for me it was an utter waste of time.

I have to say though that the narrowing down of the competition to Ford vs Holden lost me completely. Too much like canned sport.

Of course you found F1 boring. Other than speed and noise (ruined that this season) what else is their to experience for a person who isnt into cars? Cars with millions spent in RnD to ensure they go round an nice track as quick and as safe as possible. Super taxi's arent that much more exciting either until something goes pear shaped lol.

But go watch some of the stages of Targa Tasmania and it's fantastic. Huge variety of cars and talent, challenging roads, friendly locals and action everywhere.

I used to like the Bathurst 1000 when I was a kid. I think it was the Hardie Ferodoe 1000 or something like that. There were a wide variety of cars in the race. Big ones, small ones, fast ones and not so fast ones. Some were quite exotic and others were the sort of car you saw on the open road. Teams came from overseas with cars like Trans Ams, Pontiacs and Jaguar racing cars. I'm not sure what the exact cars were as I was quite young but it was pretty cool. The circuit was better too because they could really hammer it down the hill without that that zig zag at the end. Of course the circuit was more dangerous because they did really hammer it down the hill.

The whole Super Car thing with just two types of cars, a Ford and a Holden, that do not look that different to each other and both looking quite different to a car you saw on the open road, turned me off.

I'm sure its great to be there to watch at the circuit. It would be a lot of fun.

I used to go to lakeside back in the day and love Bathurst so i watch it every year.

usually try and make it to the gold coast race if I can. 2 years back as I was walking towards the gate with my 4 year old on my shoulders a guy cam up to me and gave me tickets and wrist bands for free and said have a nice day with your son.

what a champion that guy was!

needless to say my son cried for the first 15 minutes because of the noise. after that he had a ball. it was a very good day.

only thing better is 8 laps in a V8 at qld raceway..... oh yeah oh yeah.......

next. the formula fords are calling.

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The whole Super Car thing with just two types of cars, a Ford and a Holden, that do not look that different to each other and both looking quite different to a car you saw on the open road, turned me off.

Four manufacturers in the top four this year (Ford, Nissan, Holden, Mercedes).

And the cars do look fairly similar to what you see on the roads these days. With the exception of the Nissan. By the time the race ended it had been in the wall twice and was looking distinctly second-hand.

The last 20 laps were as exciting as any four-wheel motorsport I've ever seen.

I think the cars now are based on a space-frame and effectively just have panels bolted and welded to it to make it look the same as the production car its meant to represent. I remember reading when they changed from one model falcon to another they just replaced some of the panels.

I think there was a push at one time to have them all use the same engine, to make it a fairer competition and avoid any claims that one manufacturer had better access to parts than another. Now it is more about the driver's skills than the particular car they are driving.

In all seriousness, its probably closer racing for this. When it used to be a bit more aligned to production cars, it was often a whitewash by whoever happened to have the most competitive cars. When the Ford Sierras came out, they blitzed everything, and the next season almost everyone was driving one. Then Nissan used the GTR Skyline, and it dominated. Hardly cars that were available to the general public.

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/championship/technical/car-of-the-future

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V8_Supercars#V8_Supercar_specifications

It was the bikes that were exciting at Bathurst for the Aust GP.

Down the straight (when it was, with no chicane) and over the last hump at 280 kph, airborne for 80-100m,
land & hit the brakes for corner into the main straight

Was back a while, but so good.

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I used to like the Bathurst 1000 when I was a kid. I think it was the Hardie Ferodoe 1000 or something like that. There were a wide variety of cars in the race. Big ones, small ones, fast ones and not so fast ones. Some were quite exotic and others were the sort of car you saw on the open road. Teams came from overseas with cars like Trans Ams, Pontiacs and Jaguar racing cars. I'm not sure what the exact cars were as I was quite young but it was pretty cool. The circuit was better too because they could really hammer it down the hill without that that zig zag at the end. Of course the circuit was more dangerous because they did really hammer it down the hill.

The whole Super Car thing with just two types of cars, a Ford and a Holden, that do not look that different to each other and both looking quite different to a car you saw on the open road, turned me off.

I'm sure its great to be there to watch at the circuit. It would be a lot of fun.

What I love about those days, was that the smaller cars could sometimes be competitive. It was an endurance thing as much as anything else to see if the cars made it for that long without something going wrong. Watching it as a kid, someone would blow up a gearbox or something else, and it would be a race to see whether they could replace it quick enough to still be able to win. It added a bit of drama to the whole thing.

I think it was the Cortinas they were talking about, or it could have been Escorts, but there was some discussion about how these small cars could outrun the big heavy V8s through the corners, but once they got to the straights, the big cars would go past them like they were standing still. One of the drivers was quoted as saying something like "it's amazing how bad the handling and steering was on the straights as the cars would wander all over the place" as they tried to slow down the V8s by blocking them in the smaller cars. Funny stuff.

There were also stories about some guy that had been sitting there watching the race and figured his you beaut V8 falcon was faster than the cars on the circuit and decided to drive on there. Unsurprisingly he was not anywhere near as fast as a fully prepped race car!

This brings back memories. It was funny to watch the Nissan guys running the skylines and not finding them competitive, until the turbo skylines came on the scene and pretty much blowing everyone else off the track. I think that's when they started trying to cap boost levels to try and bring the Sierras and Skylines back to a level where they would have to compete with the other cars.

It was sort of boring one year to see a whole track full of Sierras. I don't know if its still the case, but they used to talk of having engines built for qualifying that would be tuned for 110%, but probably wouldn't survive a whole race. I think Dick Johnson was quoted as saying something like his Sierra could be blown away by a Ford Laser in the pits, because without being on boost the things were so slow.

modern super cars have taken endurance to a whole new level.

now they drive absolutely flat out for the entire race. it's a joy.

down conrod they re pushing over 300km/hr.

Give me the days of Cortina's, Torana's, Camaro's etc. Bathurst was a great spectacle!! And if you have driven round the track (I did with my dad when I was a kid) you have some kind of appreciation how hard they go

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Mobydisc said..
There were a wide variety of cars in the race. Big ones, small ones, fast ones and not so fast ones. Some were quite exotic and others were the sort of car you saw on the open road. Teams came from overseas with cars like Trans Ams, Pontiacs and Jaguar racing cars. I'm not sure what the exact cars were as I was quite young but it was pretty cool.

The whole Super Car thing with just two types of cars, a Ford and a Holden, that do not look that different to each other and both looking quite different to a car you saw on the open road, turned me off.

What I love about those days, was that the smaller cars could sometimes be competitive. It was an endurance thing as much as anything else to see if the cars made it for that long without something going wrong.

I think it was the Cortinas they were talking about, or it could have been Escorts, but there was some discussion about how these small cars could outrun the big heavy V8s through the corners, but once they got to the straights, the big cars would go past them like they were standing still.

yeah......proper racing like it should be done.

One image still stuck in my head was a bloke in a Celica ducking in front of a Falcon at the end of conrod straight - thinking he could leave his braking later than the Falcon, and sneak around the corner in front of the Falcon.

Nice in theory, except the Falcon's driver took advantage of the Celica - and used him as "auxiliary brakes"

When the Celica pulled in to refuel, they couldn't get to the fuel caps as the boot lid had been shunted forward - so the driver took to the boot lid with an axe.

That pic. was on the front page next day.


stephen

I couldn't help posting this lap

F1 -

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Mobydisc said..
The whole Super Car thing with just two types of cars, a Ford and a Holden, that do not look that different to each other and both looking quite different to a car you saw on the open road, turned me off.

It is hardly even two different cars anymore.

It is only the engines, transmission and body exterior that are different now isn't it??

Same roll cage/chassis, same rear axle and running gear as I understand it.

I loved it when the Mini Cooper S became king of the mountain.

17 minutes but this is fun.



Here is the real thing.



The pit stops were a bit agricultural back then.

yes - bring back the bathurst of the 60s, 70s and early 80s