great story....quote ""I think that were Hieu on his way to Australia [now], he would be locked up in Nauru or Manus and probably brutalised,"
www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-30/former-vietnam-refugee-hieu-van-le-installed-governor-sa/5707742
No. Australia is still a soft touch and economic refugees are taking advantage of it.
Select to expand quotecisco said..
No. Australia is still a soft touch and economic refugees are taking advantage of it.
Love your work mate. Says it all really, doesn't it? I mean, blokes like you were warning us when they started taking over our fish and chips shops. Nobody listened, and now they are taking over gumnit house, goddamn.
The difference is that Mr Hieu Van Le didn't land here and demand everything on a plate and insist we change our culture to suit him ( and then return to the country he fled from to take up arms). He worked hard, fitted in and gave something to Australia, as did 99% of Vietnamese people who fled to Australia, just like the Italians and other refugees before them. As has already been done to death on these forums, the current refugees, in general, are the exact opposite to Mr Hieu Van Le.
demand everything on a plate
insist we change our culture
return to the country he fled from to take up arm
^^ Dave you must admit that post WW2 Italian and then Vietnam immigrants were vastly different to the current experience. Surely....
Nope, sorry I don't.
The vast majority of asylum seekers want to work hard and build a better future for their families. They concept that they want to sit around soaking up tax dollars is less applicable, statistically, than it is to the general population.
I suppose I can't blame you for being afraid of muslims in the current days of Murdoch press going all out stoking the Terror Terror.
If you read the Herald Sun & listen to the parrot on 2GB you're probably expecting a relative to be beheaded any day now.
Even though our specific threat level is unchanged since 2003, it's great to pump up the fear and ride to war.
Great way to prop up a failing government.
Not really good for our 'budget emergency' since unlike the US we buy the vast majority of our weapons, not make them, so it costs us big and doesn't stimulate our economy. We trot dutifully along behind though, learning nothing from the last 20 years.
We are now sending (US) arms to fight those the US armed to fight a government that the US armed.http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/18/the-terrorists-fighting-us-now-we-just-finished-training-them/
Now, back on topic, there are some awful people here of all religions including muslim.
There are some terrible muslims in the press lately, sure, but they're a minority. It was found recently that the average Iranian family is far less religious than the average American family.
"economic migrants",................. are they the thousands of Chinese families that come here because they promise to set up some business or similar. Are these folks OK? I mean they don't NEED to come here........they just prefer to live here. They might make more money here, buying and selling houses, getting their kids better educations etcetc.
Are these the "economic migrants".
The red neck, white Australia mob on seabreeze don't seem to give a rats that some shonky property developer or factory owner from Shanghai can get into Australia..........just by having cash and promising to build a factory or something.
So you can just buy your way into Australia.........doesn't seem right to me.
For context, we're a middle of the pack country in terms of serving assylum seekers and refugees and have nothing like the challenges of Pakistan.
How Australia Compares (Refugees)
Australia’s World Ranking (2012)
? By total number of refugees 49th
? Compared to our population size (per capita) 62th
? Compared to our national wealth GDP (PPP) per capita 87th
How Australia Compares (Asylum Seekers)
Australia’s World Ranking (2012)
? By total number of asylum claims 20th
? Compared to our population size (per capita) 29th
? Compared to our national wealth GDP (PPP) per capita 52nd
Of the 10.5 million refugees under UNHCR's mandate as of 2012, the largest numbers were being hosted by Pakistan (1,638,500), Iran (868,200), Germany (589,700),Kenya (564,900), Syria (476,500) and Ethiopia (376,400).
Source: www.asrc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Australia-vs-the-World_August-2013.pdf
I suspect that when Hieu Van Le sought assylum we were more open as we were trying to scale the country up. I lived through the Vietnamese migration and remember the same views being expressed about them that are now expressed about our current assylum seekers, I'm told the same is true for the Italian migration. I went to primary school with many refugees. They struggled to speak English, some smelt different, they ate different food. They were just different and that was a little scary for many. In time, they showed their appreciation to this country by working hard and diversifying our culture. Now we forget that scariness and reckon they're great but the next lot are rubbish... the pattern continues.
I had a work colleague from Chile. He and his family, along with about 1000 other families, were on the wrong side of Pinochet and could no longer be legally employed in Chile. He told me that Australia took over 90%, never seen a man prouder of the country he lived in.
So I guess I struggle to see why some think that refugees "demand everything on a plate and insist we change our culture".
Anyways, congrats to Hieu Van Le on the new job.
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For context, we're a middle of the pack country in terms of serving assylum seekers and refugees and have nothing like the challenges of Pakistan.
How Australia Compares (Refugees)
Australia’s World Ranking (2012)
? By total number of refugees 49th
? Compared to our population size (per capita) 62th
? Compared to our national wealth GDP (PPP) per capita 87th
How Australia Compares (Asylum Seekers)
Australia’s World Ranking (2012)
? By total number of asylum claims 20th
? Compared to our population size (per capita) 29th
? Compared to our national wealth GDP (PPP) per capita 52nd
Of the 10.5 million refugees under UNHCR's mandate as of 2012, the largest numbers were being hosted by Pakistan (1,638,500), Iran (868,200), Germany (589,700),Kenya (564,900), Syria (476,500) and Ethiopia (376,400).
Source: www.asrc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Australia-vs-the-World_August-2013.pdf
I suspect that when Hieu Van Le sought assylum we were more open as we were trying to scale the country up. I lived through the Vietnamese migration and remember the same views being expressed about them that are now expressed about our current assylum seekers, I'm told the same is true for the Italian migration. I went to primary school with many refugees. They struggled to speak English, some smelt different, they ate different food. They were just different and that was a little scary for many. In time, they showed their appreciation to this country by working hard and diversifying our culture. Now we forget that scariness and reckon they're great but the next lot are rubbish... the pattern continues.
I had a work colleague from Chile. He and his family, along with about 1000 other families, were on the wrong side of Pinochet and could no longer be legally employed in Chile. He told me that Australia took over 90%, never seen a man prouder of the country he lived in.
So I guess I struggle to see why some think that refugees "demand everything on a plate and insist we change our culture".
Anyways, congrats to Hieu Van Le on the new job.
^^Great post.
