What are the alternative uses of Standard Shipping Container?

Storing illegal migrants

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ShippingContai said..
What are the alternative uses of Standard Shipping Container?

Not needing aircon 300 days of the year?

Shipping container houses are ridiculously hot and not applicable to Australia at all.

So alternative uses? as a shipping container perhaps....?

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Gazuki said.. Best reply on SB ever!!! literally pussing myself!!

No yours is the best reply with a typo "pussing"

An air conditioned one would make a great shaping room.

Make fantastic meth labs

They only house smelly hipsters that think all furniture is better using wooden pallets.

CRAP

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Mark _australia said..

ShippingContai said..
What are the alternative uses of Standard Shipping Container?

Not needing aircon 300 days of the year?

Shipping container houses are ridiculously hot and not applicable to Australia at all.

So alternative uses? as a shipping container perhaps....?

Would they be hot? Sure, if its a standard shipping container sitting in the sun with no ventilation, but surely prepared correctly they would be good?

I imagine a layer of insulation on the outside battened out and then blueboard on top of that would work well. It would keep the direct solar radiation down, and keep the metal from heating up too quickly. It may even go some way in keeping a bit of thermal inertia the same way in that people advocate reverese brick veneer for better thermal efficient houses.

Righto' the effort read to make a shipping container comfortably habital ain't worth the effort' or the costs

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FormulaNova said..

Would they be hot? Sure, if its a standard shipping container sitting in the sun with no ventilation, but surely prepared correctly they would be good?

I imagine a layer of insulation on the outside battened out and then blueboard on top of that would work well. It would keep the direct solar radiation down, and keep the metal from heating up too quickly. It may even go some way in keeping a bit of thermal inertia the same way in that people advocate reverese brick veneer for better thermal efficient houses.

Yeah, and after all that it is going to cost the same as or more than a conventional home and still be a prick of a thing to live in.

A recycled shipping container can be turned into a reasonable compact sized workshop but I think that is about where their usefullness ends. Scrap metal otherwise.

The sheer beauty of a shipping container should override any thermal or practical problems

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cisco said..

FormulaNova said..

Would they be hot? Sure, if its a standard shipping container sitting in the sun with no ventilation, but surely prepared correctly they would be good?

I imagine a layer of insulation on the outside battened out and then blueboard on top of that would work well. It would keep the direct solar radiation down, and keep the metal from heating up too quickly. It may even go some way in keeping a bit of thermal inertia the same way in that people advocate reverese brick veneer for better thermal efficient houses.

Yeah, and after all that it is going to cost the same as or more than a conventional home and still be a prick of a thing to live in.

A recycled shipping container can be turned into a reasonable compact sized workshop but I think that is about where their usefullness ends. Scrap metal otherwise.

I can't but help think that a few of you are assuming the worst and thinking that its all bad.

I agree that on first pass they look like they would be a terrible idea, but I think that they may be better than you think. Then again, I have never costed one either

Cisco, how can you have it both ways? You say it would cost the same or more than a conventional home and still be a prick of a thing to live in. That sounds like something someone would say when they just don't want to agree. If you say it costs more, why would it then be bad? That just doesn't make sense.

Thermally efficient houses seem to look at the idea of having thermal mass on the inside of a building, and insulation and shading to keep the effects of solar radiation in check. How is a steel structure going to be bad at that?

The steel structure of a container has structural strength, so framing is minimal. I suspect that the majority of cost in a new build comes from labour, not the materials, so I wonder if having this structure reduces the costs of labour required to fit it out.

If only I had the access to get one installed in my backyard and I could give it a try. You all might be right, but without any data, your comments are just opinions like mine.

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Imax1 said..
An air conditioned one would make a great shaping room.

20 foot shipping container shaping room with air con. Luxury office!
I've got this thing working really well now, it's a good work space.
Shipping containers are a perfect base to build a shaping room exactly how you need it.

Nice shaping environment.
Awesome retreat.
ps: what do you do with your dust ?

beachgrit.com/2018/05/buy-dion-agius-shipping-container-byron-house/
dion agius makes good money out of air Bnbing his metal boxes

Surely in the near future most houses will be prefabricated anyhow. Quick install kit homes. over in WA out love affair with bricks and mortar is perplexing. Such crappy insulation potential. We must have taken the 3 little pigs story really the heart.

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eppo said..
Surely in the near future most houses will be prefabricated anyhow. Quick install kit homes. over in WA out love affair with bricks and mortar is perplexing. Such crappy insulation potential. We must have taken the 3 little pigs story really the heart.

Really?? Nothing better than double brick, solid AF, lasts a lifetime. Doesn't get blown away like stick houses, even safe against the mighty ant. Personally I can't believe other states haven't taken it on, especially NT and QLD where cyclones come through.

Foam form concrete houses are the go. Double insulation. Quick and easy to build. The price will fall as popularity rises

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Gazuki said..

eppo said..
Surely in the near future most houses will be prefabricated anyhow. Quick install kit homes. over in WA out love affair with bricks and mortar is perplexing. Such crappy insulation potential. We must have taken the 3 little pigs story really the heart.

Really?? Nothing better than double brick, solid AF, lasts a lifetime. Doesn't get blown away like stick houses, even safe against the mighty ant. Personally I can't believe other states haven't taken it on, especially NT and QLD where cyclones come through.

You would think that the powers that be in NT and Qld would look at this... and they have. That's why they have cyclone building codes. If double brick was better, they would suggest it, and if it was heaps better they would mandate it.

What does your double brick construction do when the cyclone wants to lift the roof from the building and pulls apart the bricks?

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psychojoe said..
Foam form concrete houses are the go. Double insulation. Quick and easy to build. The price will fall as popularity rises

You see some of these really cool systems on shows like Grand Designs, but you don't seem to hear much of them in the real world here. I wonder if this is just lack of interest in trying something new or whether there are defficiencies?

There was some house made with excluded clay bricks that were essentially glued together. It looked simple, and I think the home owner was doing a lot of it himself. You would think that would be a great idea, but it doesn't seem to be popular.

I don't even know why WA seems fond of larger bricks/blocks when you don't seem to see them much over east.

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Gazuki said..

eppo said..
Surely in the near future most houses will be prefabricated anyhow. Quick install kit homes. over in WA out love affair with bricks and mortar is perplexing. Such crappy insulation potential. We must have taken the 3 little pigs story really the heart.

Really?? Nothing better than double brick, solid AF, lasts a lifetime. Doesn't get blown away like stick houses, even safe against the mighty ant. Personally I can't believe other states haven't taken it on, especially NT and QLD where cyclones come through.

Your living in the 70s man

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Gazuki said..

eppo said..
Surely in the near future most houses will be prefabricated anyhow. Quick install kit homes. over in WA out love affair with bricks and mortar is perplexing. Such crappy insulation potential. We must have taken the 3 little pigs story really the heart.

Really?? Nothing better than double brick, solid AF, lasts a lifetime. Doesn't get blown away like stick houses, even safe against the mighty ant. Personally I can't believe other states haven't taken it on, especially NT and QLD where cyclones come through.

db certainly seems to have some durability merit in coastal locations. But with modern insulations, the thermal properties have been way overtaken, and ability to finish on timber frame now to just about any look you want also adds more flexibility then just a) brick or b) render.
the WA love with modern brick just seems to be due to midland bricks advertising blitz 40+ years ago, and the cheap cost by quantities that the volume builders seem to be able to get away with.

disclaimer: not a chippie, builder or architect - but speak to them often on this subject out of curiosity!


re: foam form concrete - starting to get more traction where there is a retaining element or multi story from what i have noticed, so still for those bigger budget builds on that basis currently. Scalability and volume seems to be the key

Back to subject of shipping containers. I was involved with a company that supplied container parts to repair depots that also modified containers to insulate them, add power, windows, doors and air conditioning.
Apart from the standard steel profiles, side panels etc but also flat sheets to cut and fold profiles to suit different jobs.
Seen some incredible modifications that you could live in. With the various twistlocks you can have a structural base (yes had to supply certification for various council approvals) and connect a 2nd or third container.
In NZ we have more refrigerated containers that even with the refrigerator motor removed are more expensive than a general ( steel) box.
As Hoops says they make an excellent shaping room
. Personally I would like to get one for board building with vacuum pump, laminating, sanding and painting. My wife isn't so keen to have one on our section

Shipping containers are an economical and viable proposition although many councils are not receptive to these in Australia

With some planning and guidance (e.g. internet) all problems can be resolved.

In several countries, the use of containers for alternative building is popular.


















The above are just a few examples.

The examples above take a large amount of labour to achieve' a look more cost effectively achieved by standard framing

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cauncy said..
The examples above take a large amount of labour to achieve' a look more cost effectively achieved by standard framing

Except the second one.
The second one is pretty cool.
I like the use of the space between the containers

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Mark _australia said..

Gazuki said.. Best reply on SB ever!!! literally pussing myself!!

No yours is the best reply with a typo "pussing"

Maybe he's pussing himself with the shipping container dildo?

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515 said..
Back to subject of shipping containers. I was involved with a company that supplied container parts to repair depots that also modified containers to insulate them, add power, windows, doors and air conditioning.
Apart from the standard steel profiles, side panels etc but also flat sheets to cut and fold profiles to suit different jobs.
Seen some incredible modifications that you could live in. With the various twistlocks you can have a structural base (yes had to supply certification for various council approvals) and connect a 2nd or third container.
In NZ we have more refrigerated containers that even with the refrigerator motor removed are more expensive than a general ( steel) box.
As Hoops says they make an excellent shaping room
. Personally I would like to get one for board building with vacuum pump, laminating, sanding and painting. My wife isn't so keen to have one on our section

Yep, you can buy them insulated. They make nice cold server rooms, surveillance rooms, clean rooms etc. I'm pretty sold on them for certain purposes.

Seemed like a good idea as the basis for a structure but as an option to save a dollar in a build it's probably not that great. Thermal expansion of different materials usually ends with severe cracking. Did a owner build few years back, we looked at icf and went to a course , due to wanting to do most ourselves, but the extra costings ended up making it more expensive than stud frame and foam cladding and we did most ourselves but let the rendering to trade . So went with that. We didn't save that much from the foam cladding as face brick was about the same once rendering the foam came into consideration. But we saved overall as did the earthworks ourselves . Internal fit out ,the tiling, the painting and worked along side the chippy for the stud frame and stick roof construction.