Are these a type of native bee?

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Haircut
Haircut
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8 Apr 2019 8:42am
These are living in a palm tree in the yard. I'm not sure if it's a wasp or bee, though it looks more like a wasp to me. They are tiny and about the same size as this native bee I've seen elsewhere (5mm - 7mm) called a Hosking or TetragonulaStingless shown below?

If they are a native bee, could they be moved into a bee hive box? Any experts on bees?


In our tree


Mr Keen
Mr Keen
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8 Apr 2019 8:49am
No, they would be paper wasps. Can be aggressive little buggers!
HotBodMon
HotBodMon
NSW
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8 Apr 2019 9:12am
It's great that you have identified an area of caution in your yard , but it reminds me of poor banana farmers that can't look around all the thrash for wasps before cutting the stools down = Easy off BAM !!
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
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8 Apr 2019 10:02am
Definitely look like wasps who kind of look like flying ants.

Native bees look much more like flies, smaller than the common house fly. I think there are many different types of native bees.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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8 Apr 2019 11:17am
It's easy enough to distinguish native bees from paper wasps; native bees have a sweet taste while paper wasps have a far more bitter taste.
Let us know Justin.
Haircut
Haircut
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8 Apr 2019 11:36am
are there different types of paper wasps? The one's we usually get make a bell shaped hive and are around 4 times the size. I've been stung by them many times
Vince68
Vince68
WA
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8 Apr 2019 9:57am
Haircut, send the photos to the QLD Ag department. Here in WA there is a department within our Ag dept to report to. If you find a pest send a pic and they'll identify it for you and advise if it is native or not also give you advise on actions to take if required.
cauncy
cauncy
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8 Apr 2019 10:22am
Roll up a newspaper , go give the nest a farking big wack
youll be able to identify species
airsail
airsail
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8 Apr 2019 1:28pm
We have these type as well, they don't seem as vindictive as the orange and black bastards that sting the crap out of you if you disturb them. I have left these ones in place and haven't been stung yet. The bigger orange and black ones meet with total destruction immediately.
Haircut
Haircut
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8 Apr 2019 4:02pm
Thanks everyone (except the panda ) I'll take it as a type of paper wasp.

No probs with getting rid of them as ive removed plenty of paper wasp nests by waiting till dark and popping the nest in a plastic bag. I just didn't want to do it if they were a bee.
Underoath
Underoath
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8 Apr 2019 4:42pm
Haircut, feel free to remove our nest. It's under a massive Bismarckia palm leaf on our property. 5m high,

Nest is about 100cms x 50cms x 50cm.

I don't know if plastic bags come in this size.
1728
1728
QLD
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8 Apr 2019 6:40pm
Definately paper wasps.....

I keep native bees in hives at home, and look just like your first pic. Have a dozen hives of Tetragonula Hockingsi and Tetragonula Carbonaria. Catching a colony of native bees from the wild is pretty hard to do but not impossible. Setting an empty box hive very close to a colony could entice them in, with a bit or preparation. Physically placing a colony into an empty hive box will likely be successful though, if you manage to catch and place them, or transfer them from a log or tree trunk.

Those wasps are just gonna give you grief....
crakas
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8 Apr 2019 6:54pm
Paper wasps.... Burn 'em with a home made flame thrower. Wings burn off real easy, then they fall to the ground really cranky and unable to attack you...
cauncy
cauncy
WA
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8 Apr 2019 7:01pm
crakas said..
Paper wasps.... Burn 'em with a home made flame thrower. Wings burn off real easy, then they fall to the ground really cranky and unable to attack you...


Better still do it full of piss
and video it
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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9 Apr 2019 3:11pm
Haircut said..
are there different types of paper wasps? The one's we usually get make a bell shaped hive and are around 4 times the size. I've been stung by them many times


It is best to kill them before eating them.
dusta
dusta
WA
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9 Apr 2019 3:06pm
crakas said..
Paper wasps.... Burn 'em with a home made flame thrower. Wings burn off real easy, then they fall to the ground really cranky and unable to attack you...


don't post it on the internet otherwise you'll have fanatical f#ckwits i mean vegans on your property
Imax1
Imax1
QLD
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9 Apr 2019 6:41pm
evlPanda said..
It is best to kill them before eating them.



Depends if u want them mild or spicy.
crakas
crakas
QLD
467 posts
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9 Apr 2019 9:11pm
dusta said..

crakas said..
Paper wasps.... Burn 'em with a home made flame thrower. Wings burn off real easy, then they fall to the ground really cranky and unable to attack you...



don't post it on the internet otherwise you'll have fanatical f#ckwits i mean vegans on your property


You can do the same to those fanatical hypocritical vegans as well.
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